Re:Java at 30: The Genius Behind the Code That Changed Tech
by jbverschoor on Saturday May 17, 2025 @03:41PM
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You know what's funny? Spring (earlier versions) had even more xml ;-)
I dunno it just worked for me. But I kept using the standards, no vendor lockin stuff, which bea etc always wanted.
I think the servlet design is great, the whole packaging/deployment model is great. And then well the session beans were overkill in general, so they were swapped out quite early by me. Swapped jsp out for I think velocity templates. And that application is still alive, running, and on the same platform.
And Java meant, at least for me and how I configured it, proper debugging and IDE support (love Eclipse), hot code reload, easy releases, repeatability, ci/cd. The last 20 years, no __significant__ improvements in my opinion.
Re:Java at 30: The Genius Behind the Code That Changed Tech
by icedchai on Saturday May 17, 2025 @05:50PM
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I think servlets are great, too. Coincidentally I also swapped out JSP for Freemarker and then Velocity templates pretty early. The session beans and entity beans I could both live without. The "heavy weight" nature of the commercial app servers really bothered me. JBoss was fine, but WebLogic, WebSphere, etc were awful.
What did you like about JEE? I worked in that world for years and don't miss it in the least.