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Re:Stack Overflow is almost dead by wanderingstan on Thursday May 15, 2025 @05:06PM (#43999335)
Stack overflow never owned the content, it is and was Creative Commons: https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing
Re:Stack Overflow is almost dead by zahlman on Thursday May 15, 2025 @07:24PM (#44000366)
That license is granted to the community, but per the linked Terms of Service, the company gets a slightly different license (https://stackoverflow.com/legal/terms-of-service/public#lice... ; scroll to "Subscriber Content"). Emphasis on:

> ... and you grant Stack Overflow the perpetual and irrevocable right and license to ...

Re:Stack Overflow is almost dead by amanaplanacanal on Thursday May 15, 2025 @05:32PM (#43999525)
That license comes with obligations that the AI companies aren't following.
Re:Stack Overflow is almost dead by bawolff on Thursday May 15, 2025 @05:49PM (#43999675)
Its highly debatable if that's true.

The cc lience only applies to the presentation of the information, it doesn't apply to the factual content of the information. Which part openAI used is a matter of much controversy.

Re:Stack Overflow is almost dead by shinycode on Thursday May 15, 2025 @06:04PM (#43999810)
Cursor once wrote a comment, I prompted then « what is the source of the comment » and it replaced the comment with a stackoverflow url in which the page contained the said comment verbatim. I didn’t expect cursor to paste the full url
Re:Stack Overflow is almost dead by timewizard on Thursday May 15, 2025 @05:59PM (#43999771)
Well.. if given the right prompt.. it will effectively fully reproduce a stack overflow post in it's original form then there is no controversy and we can all see plainly what's going on behind the scenes.
Re:Stack Overflow is almost dead by bawolff on Thursday May 15, 2025 @06:04PM (#43999805)
Will it actually? There have certainly been incidents of that sort of thing, but from what i understand people have not been able to reliably make that happen for specific posts .
Re:Stack Overflow is almost dead by timewizard on Thursday May 15, 2025 @07:09PM (#44000280)
Define "it."

And yes. I've gotten many free LLM tools and demos to fully recreate stack overflow posts or blog articles. They seem to have a habit of copying comments verbatim which is usually good token to search for to find the original "inspiration."

It pretty reliably does this. The simpler the program you ask for the more likely it is to just copy one. Which we can argue that the simpler the program the fewer the plausible implementations but when it copies the comments so exactly and positions them identically then there aren't any other conclusions to reach.

The current set of "AI" companies are just in the business of whitewashing copyright violations.

Re:Stack Overflow is almost dead by bawolff on Friday May 16, 2025 @10:33AM (#44005989)
Sure, but copying 1 or 2 sentences verbatim into a long program probably isn't enough to win a copyright suit (de minimis). Or at least it would be pretty grey. Similarly, the simpler the program, the less likely the creative intent shines through.

(Mostly im just trying to say these things depend on the details, and the anti-AI crowd tend to handwave the details away. They might still be right, but its far from an obvious slam dunk)

Re:Stack Overflow is almost dead by souldeux on Thursday May 15, 2025 @05:41PM (#43999604)
A distinction that is unfortunately as important as it is meaningless