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Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by tptacek on Friday August 17, 2012 @03:50PM (#4398420)
Also I should be allowed to veto at least one YC applicant per batch.
Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by larrys on Saturday August 18, 2012 @12:07AM (#4400197)
You of course are allowed to joke because more people know who you are and allow it (so your comments aren't greyed down for everyone to see). (I've noticed this a few times at least). So now the poor puppy of a newbie user thinks it's ok to tell a joke (because he doesn't know who you are) or be funny and then BAM he gets slapped with a newspaper full of downvotes and runs away yelping all confused with his tail between his legs. What happened what did I do so wrong?

Now personally I'd rather be able to tell jokes on HN than be able to veto. But then again I'd have to sift through the bad jokes that other's tell.

In any community like this it takes some time to learn the rules. I'm sure there are quite a few people who don't necessarily know who "pg" is for that matter.

Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by tptacek on Saturday August 18, 2012 @12:55AM (#4400283)
Maybe overthinking this one a little.
Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by scoot on Friday August 17, 2012 @04:24PM (#4398598)
May I please be the first to say "WTF"? I know who you are, I know what you contribute, but... WTF?
Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by chc on Friday August 17, 2012 @04:40PM (#4398680)
It's an old joke. You make a request and somebody acquiesces more easily than you expected, so you follow up with an absurd request like "Also, can I have a million dollars?"

And now I went and explained it. Sorry, tptacek.

Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by scoot on Friday August 17, 2012 @05:00PM (#4398771)
Ah, got it (humble pie eaten, apologies tptacek).
Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by tptacek on Friday August 17, 2012 @05:33PM (#4398923)
People should stop piling onto you with downvotes. No apology necessary.
Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by tptacek on Friday August 17, 2012 @04:51PM (#4398739)
That too, but also, I'm going to wear him down with this someday.
Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by larrys on Saturday August 18, 2012 @12:20AM (#4400230)
To add to your thought when negotiating it's always important to offer nominal kickback generally. Lest the person feel they left money on the table.

If I am selling something and asking $1000 and the person comes back with an offer of $500 and assuming I am willing to take that offer (because I was shooting high) I need to offer some "kickback". This could be as simple as saying something like "well, if I accept can you pay within 5 days?" Or perhaps, "can't do $500 but I'll consider $600". Otherwise the buyer feels perhaps "hmm wow that was to quick and to easy" and might back out of the deal. Strictly my experience over many years.

Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by gcheong on Friday August 17, 2012 @05:58PM (#4399017)
Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by lessnonymous on Sunday August 19, 2012 @03:12AM (#4403461)
Oh, thanks. Now I get it. I think the problem was I missed that this was a reply to pg's acquiescence. It was several pages down by the time I read it so the joke was lost.
Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by lacker on Friday August 17, 2012 @06:48PM (#4399220)
Given the risk/reward tradeoff for a YC investment, vetos are pretty worthless. Even if you were the most brilliant vetoer ever, there is very little upside for YC.

Instead you should ask to be able to green-light one applicant per batch. That way, it would be possible for your contribution to be very valuable.

Re:Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News.. by mkramlich on Friday August 17, 2012 @07:36PM (#4399416)
whoosh