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Re:DeepSeek’s founder is threatening US dominance in AI race by nwienert on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @10:43PM (#43980186)
It’s funny, R1 came out and matched 4o/o1 at the time, you could claim it was very slightly behind but it was basically even.

It’s been 6 months? Geminis big upgrade was 2 months ago and o3 even more recent.

It’s just funny that US companies just barely got ahead the last couple months and already it’s a “drawn out narrative” that they aren’t ahead.

For all we know R2 drops tomorrow? If it’s ahead or even how are we supposed to think about the narrative?

IMO it’s not really that much of a stretch to say they’re fairly close together. I’d want to wait 6 more months where the US stayed significantly ahead before I’d be complaining about narratives. I know things move fast but that’s all the more reason to wait and see.

Re:DeepSeek’s founder is threatening US dominance in AI race by SV_BubbleTime on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @10:57PM (#43980271)
> For all we know R2 drops tomorrow? If it’s ahead or even how are we supposed to think about the narrative?

I hope that R2 releases tomorrow and you enjoy some presumed clairvoyance for a minute.

Re:DeepSeek’s founder is threatening US dominance in AI race by jackt89 on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @11:01PM (#43980294)
Based on DeepSeek's release cadence of R1 and V3-0324, it will drop on 5/19 or 5/26, so you are not far off
Re:DeepSeek’s founder is threatening US dominance in AI race by SubiculumCode on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @12:21AM (#43980771)
R1 has a much bigger hallucination problem than Gemini does...which made it a no go
Re:DeepSeek’s founder is threatening US dominance in AI race by blitzar on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @03:33AM (#43981886)
Blind patriotism (or cultism) clouds logic and rots the brain.
Re:DeepSeek’s founder is threatening US dominance in AI race by IncreasePosts on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @07:32PM (#43990288)
But didn't R1 use openai/google models to generate the data to train on? So the only reason R1 could exist is necessarily because those models predated it.