Re:Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on 'war crimes' by col...
by orwin on Monday May 12, 2025 @07:03PM
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Yes, and the main issue is that the men in the army who could have been properly taught how to handle violence are not, and when they're back the violence will infuse in the broader society.
Re:Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on 'war crimes' by col...
by psunavy03 on Monday May 12, 2025 @07:23PM
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Apparently you missed the part in the article where SAS troopers testified against the accused.
So let's take that bigoted "veterans are broken people" narrative and stuff it where the sun don't shine alongside "women are hysterical" and so forth.
Re:Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on 'war crimes' by col...
by orwin on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @12:10PM
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Wow, wow, i wasn't clear, i'm not accusing any western army of doing that (israel, US might be close however), i was responding to a specific comment about rotten leadership and lack of discipline. A well disciplined army do not bring the violence back, because they're taught how to handle the violence, and often are debriefed after each mission, then after each deployment. The issue is when demilitarization never happen, or when it start to treat enemies as non-humans.
I know far to much army men (mostly airforce, some Marsouins) to say "veterans are broken people", i know it isn't the case.
Compare this with the US during the Philippines War in the 19th century, an exceedingly dirty colonial conflict with no meaningful press involvement to blow the whistle, yet a major was court-martialled for waterboarding a prisoner:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding#During_the_Phili...
Ultimately these practices are either a sign of rotten leadership, or poor discipline. Once you let the rot fester, it's only a matter of time before the entire army is gangrened.