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Re:The Audio Stack Is a Crime Scene by ringeryless on Monday May 12, 2025 @12:00PM (#43964496)
the cause of all this? single client ALSA driver model.

coreaudio doesn't need pulse nor jack nor pipewire to allow a single device to be opened by multiple applications.

ALSA additionally specifies every 2 channels as separate 2channel devices, so your 8 channel audio interface looks like 4.

the confusion is added to by device tree overlays such that you may find your pro audio 8 channel device is always seen as a surround setup, replete wirh highpass filtering on the principle pair of outputs, and you don't know why your poor desktop environments sound device doesn't show this...

Re:The Audio Stack Is a Crime Scene by patrakov on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @04:52AM (#43982371)
> ALSA additionally specifies every 2 channels as separate 2channel devices, so your 8 channel audio interface looks like 4.

There is no such specification. It is device-dependent and abstracted through ALSA configuration. Creative Labs indeed implemented their cards as three separate codecs, while ForteMedia used a single 6-channel codec that you can open as such at the hardware level. In both cases, you can open a single virtual "surround51" device that routes the channels correctly.