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Re:Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war by fideloper on Sunday May 11, 2025 @06:57PM (#43957958)
I think the idea is your phone will do that for you via carplay (etc)
Re:Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war by pnw on Sunday May 11, 2025 @06:59PM (#43957979)
That's a huge assumption. Cars had cell connectivity long before smartphones showed up. Onstar predates the iPhone by a decade.
Re:Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war by const_cast on Sunday May 11, 2025 @07:08PM (#43958040)
I don't think it's a huge assumption. It was in the past, but not anymore.

The thing is that car manufacturers have been fucking up software in cars since... forever. The second car play and android auto hit the scene, that's all anyone wanted.

There's more benefits than just what's on the surface, too. Even if the car software is perfect, it doesn't have access to the same data your phone does. It won't put your contacts in your navigation, for instance.

Re:Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war by alistairSH on Sunday May 11, 2025 @07:39PM (#43958212)
The only problem with CarPlay (and presumably AA) is lack of integration with the car…

Changing lock, light, and anudio (bass/treble/sub/fade) options. Map integration with fuel capacity (they only recently do this for EVs). Checking service intervals, recalls, etc.

If CarPlay had APIs/toolkit to serve those functions, it could 100% replace the UI that the manufacturer delivers (and nobody likes).

Re:Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war by pnw on Sunday May 11, 2025 @07:25PM (#43958156)
My car puts my phone contacts in my navigation. That's a software limitation of legacy car manufacturers.
Re:Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war by const_cast on Sunday May 11, 2025 @07:34PM (#43958192)
Right, and Apple Car Play does it out the gate. So much so that I can say "Navigate to Doctor X" and it does it. And it did it without convoluted requirements on the vehicle side. And it will continue to do it, because Apple's navigation isn't going to rot like the car manufacturers will.

Look, can car makers make somewhat decent software? Probably, if they burn enough money. But is it even worth it? I don't think so. People already use their phone hours a day, just let them use that.

Re:Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war by tomrod on Sunday May 11, 2025 @07:03PM (#43958010)
The moment you pick a non-techie off the street and help them see the amount of data collection occurring, you have another person who proves the assumption. It's not a huge assumption.

No one likes ads, no one likes their data being collected. The sooner insurance and car companies understand that, the sooner they get out of the maelstrom of false revenue from ad- and spy-ware programs.

Re:Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war by pnw on Sunday May 11, 2025 @07:21PM (#43958134)
What percentage of consumers do you think consider privacy as a feature in their car purchasing decision?

The only data I can find relates to Chinese vehicles which shows some concerns, but that's understandable given they are built by a foreign adversary.

https://www.autopacific.com/autopacific-insights/2024/5/22/y...

Re:Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war by Nursie on Sunday May 11, 2025 @09:02PM (#43958692)
> What percentage of consumers do you think consider privacy as a feature in their car purchasing decision?

What percent of users understand how much data is being collected about them?