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Re:The Most Valuable Commodity in the World Is Friction by eviks on Sunday May 11, 2025 @04:06PM (#43956711)
The art in poetry is poetry, which includes all forms of it, so the poet isn't limited to any specific form, and many did write in different forms. Similarly unclear what was arbitrary about oil paints, what was a similarly colorful alternative without such limits?
Re:The Most Valuable Commodity in the World Is Friction by coldtea on Sunday May 11, 2025 @05:58PM (#43957515)
>The art in poetry is poetry, which includes all forms of it

Only in abstract - before you get to do it. When you do start to write a specific poem this doesn't hold anymore, and a big part of the art is fitting the form you chose.

Re:The Most Valuable Commodity in the World Is Friction by eviks on Sunday May 11, 2025 @06:18PM (#43957639)
Not just in abstract - mixed poetry exists in reality, so it holds at the level of an individual poem as well.
Re:The Most Valuable Commodity in the World Is Friction by HenryBemis on Monday May 12, 2025 @08:29AM (#43962203)
> >The art in poetry is poetry, which includes all forms of it

Imho the "art in poetry" begins when I had that dinner with that fascinating woman, and I had the "porch test" and in that test it was raining, and I came up with a haiku. But not (only) on the haiku itself.

Re:The Most Valuable Commodity in the World Is Friction by Affric on Sunday May 11, 2025 @06:04PM (#43957556)
I mean poetry is an arrangement of symbols, generally symbols that are related in their representation: assonance, dissonance, rhyme, meter, stress, meaning…

The poet is limited to symbols. And every poet comes up against these limitations.

Re:The Most Valuable Commodity in the World Is Friction by eviks on Monday May 12, 2025 @05:11AM (#43961052)
But the symbols aren't an arbitrary limitation - for example, using non-language symbols would mean that he will simply not be understood, so the understanding is drive by the need to communicate