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Re:DNS Piracy Blocking Orders: Google, Cloudflare, and OpenD... by ryandrake on Sunday May 11, 2025 @12:58PM (#43955098)
Trying to graft the Internet onto physical country borders has been fraught from the very beginning, but they keep trying. When a user in country A, connected to a satellite Internet provider headquartered in country B, through a VPN whose offices are in country C and their VPN server is in country D, looks up an IP address with a DNS server in country E, to a web site whose headquarters is in country F, and request a file hosted on servers distributed across countries G, H, I, J, and K, whose laws should apply?
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Re:DNS Piracy Blocking Orders: Google, Cloudflare, and OpenD... by markvdb on Sunday May 11, 2025 @03:19PM (#43956283)
In the country where the physical person making the request is located would be a logical solution. Not saying it would be a good solution, but that would follow the logic of most international fiscal law. Super hard to implement though.
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Re:DNS Piracy Blocking Orders: Google, Cloudflare, and OpenD... by ndr on Sunday May 11, 2025 @05:49PM (#43957450)
How is that supposed to work? If I open port 80 on my desktop I'm suddenly liable in every foreign jurisdiction that has user able to reach me on port 80?
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Re:DNS Piracy Blocking Orders: Google, Cloudflare, and OpenD... by gruez on Sunday May 11, 2025 @01:04PM (#43955141)
So far as I can tell this concern isn't applicable, because it's only blocked in Belgium. I tested myself and it's not blocked in other countries.
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Re:DNS Piracy Blocking Orders: Google, Cloudflare, and OpenD... by JumpCrisscross on Sunday May 11, 2025 @03:52PM (#43956577)
> Trying to graft the Internet onto physical country borders has been fraught from the very beginning

I’d argue Silicon Valley pretending there is a natural arc of digital history towards freedom and enlightenment if we just leave everything alone is distinctly reminiscent of 90s free-trade optimism. And like that philosophy, this too one finds its tombstone in China.

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Re:DNS Piracy Blocking Orders: Google, Cloudflare, and OpenD... by TZubiri on Sunday May 11, 2025 @01:41PM (#43955432)
This is an interesting question, but the law is well established, and it has an answer.
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Re:DNS Piracy Blocking Orders: Google, Cloudflare, and OpenD... by AnthonyMouse on Sunday May 11, 2025 @02:00PM (#43955595)
"It has an answer" is not how you decide a policy question. It's rather important that the answer be reasonable rather than capricious, burdensome and ineffective.
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Re:DNS Piracy Blocking Orders: Google, Cloudflare, and OpenD... by redleader55 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @02:50PM (#43956043)
All the laws that we broke out of were established and had an answer to questions of life: land ownership, slavery, social structure, rights of various groups of people, etc.

The laws that apply on the internet are very desperate attempts by people with no technical knowledge to control something that can't be controlled. They work only because ways to circumvent them are not yet easy to use by the masses.

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