US vs. Google Amicus Curiae Brief of Y Combinator in Support of Plaintiffs [pdf]

Re:US vs. Google Amicus Curiae Brief of Y Combinator in Supp... by fibers on Saturday May 10, 2025 @08:51PM (#43950296)

- Google Maps - this would be a big loss but at least this will open the field for Apple Maps and OSM (and I wonder if a competitor will be able to properly leave OSM as is an perhaps integrate traffic data like with Waze or another product like it)

  - Google Mail - I dumped gmail after Google google'd GDomains and sold it to squarespace so I moved to proton

  - Google Drive - lol, this is a literal multibillion industry with dropbox, box.com, etc

  - Google Docs - lol, maybe high schoolers will finally use paper and pencil now? either way proton docs looks promising and perheps a new competitor will take the space

  - Google Groups - email listservs are still a thing, use that
 
 - Google Forms - this seems like a serious loss but surely there will be another competitor

  - Google Cloud - there are better ways to do on prem now, either way you can use AWS or Azure

  - Google OAuth - ok this one will be a big loss but also people need to get it together that google isnt mail.

  - Google Search - this product has been going through a collapse since pre covid give me a break

  - Google Analytics - lol
 
 - Chrome - web standards have been cannibalized by google already so like who cares at this point. just switch to Firefox

  - Android - another major loss but it still suffers from fragmentation, hopefully Chinese competitors fill the void?

  - Android Auto - lol 

  - Fitbit - lol didn't they just release an update where you cant export your data anymore

  - Google Fi - another MVNO that may die out? I mean cricket is still good right?

  - Google Fiber - a genuine loss and hope they will be treated with care but probably not given the large legacy telcos that will acquire it

  - Google Flights - another major loss? but even as someone who loves flying it is becoming an untenable situation given the current regime in the White House and ATCs getting knocked out

  - Google Translate - another major loss but this can be solved with LLMs
  - Google Pay - lol

  - Waymo - lol

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Re:US vs. Google Amicus Curiae Brief of Y Combinator in Supp... by matheusmoreira on Saturday May 10, 2025 @09:42PM (#43950552)

I like your style, "lol" is the appropriate response to the notion of losing Google's entire list of products.

Android? It's not a big loss. It's no longer the open platform it used to be. Hardware remote attestation will get us locked out of every app if we "tamper" with our devices. It's just a shitty version of iOS now so who cares?

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Re:US vs. Google Amicus Curiae Brief of Y Combinator in Supp... by fibers on Sunday May 11, 2025 @10:26AM (#43954055)

it was a losing fight, by covid I switched to iOS when I realized safetynet really messed up with the ability to own your own hardware since banking apps would straight up break if you rooted your phone. at that point I also realized there was less fragmentation with iPhones and had more long term support.

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Re:US vs. Google Amicus Curiae Brief of Y Combinator in Supp... by matheusmoreira on Sunday May 11, 2025 @02:46PM (#43956006)

Yeah. What's the point of things like GrapheneOS if using them means we'll be refused service? Remote attestation lets them use cryptography to literally discriminate against us. Not using a corporate pwned machine? Can't log into your bank account.

It's beyond stupid. Everything is gonna require this. Banks want it because fraud. Streaming apps want it because copyright infringement. Ordinary apps want it because advertising. If we must be in some walled garden, might as well choose the better kept one instead of the Google nonsense.

This is how computing freedom dies. There's absolutely no point to free software if we can't run it.

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