Re:How Bail Bonds Work
by thayne on Saturday May 10, 2025 @01:49PM
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IMHO, if the bail is too high for the accused to be able to possibly pay, it is excessive. The wealth (or lack thereof) of the accused should be a consideration in setting the bail.
Re:How Bail Bonds Work
by avidiax on Sunday May 11, 2025 @10:07AM
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I'm fairly liberal, but I don't think we should bail out a hypothetical murderer that happens to be homeless for $0, simply because that's what they can afford.
I do feel like we need a low-cost solution to monitored release. Something like an ankle monitor that isn't ridiculously overpriced, or just an app on the defendant's phone for misdemeanors. Maybe someday you can have the defendant swallow an AirTag that adheres itself to the stomach for a few months, and perhaps monitors pre-trial conditions such as discontinuing alcohol or drug use.
Re:How Bail Bonds Work
by Finbarr on Sunday May 11, 2025 @10:15AM
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Totally agree. By the same logic, we shouldn't release a billionaire murderer just because they can afford it. Being rich doesn't always correlate with risk.
Re:How Bail Bonds Work
by Finbarr on Sunday May 11, 2025 @10:12AM
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Slavery was also abolished in the UK in 1833.
Cash bail is an anachronism that makes a bunch of money at the expense of society's undesirables, so little progress is made on fixing it. See also the private prison system.
Re:How Bail Bonds Work
by esbranson on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @04:49PM
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> California
Run by the Democratic Party. If they run pretrial services like they've run their high-speed train to nowhere, they will get societal collapse.
> Brooklyn Community Bail Fund
Where the judges are elected on Democratic Party tickets. Where the law has always said those same judges can grant bail without commercial bonds...
> (UK) Bail Act 1976
To implement this in New York would simply require removing the Democrats from the bench and finding judges who would follow the law. Scrutinize and Reinvent Albany recently did another piece about getting Democrats to follow the law already on the books.[1]
> The bail bonds industry will fight tooth and nail to keep this from happening.
Fight who? lolol Shouldn't these people be protesting car dealerships or something?
I do feel like we need a low-cost solution to monitored release. Something like an ankle monitor that isn't ridiculously overpriced, or just an app on the defendant's phone for misdemeanors. Maybe someday you can have the defendant swallow an AirTag that adheres itself to the stomach for a few months, and perhaps monitors pre-trial conditions such as discontinuing alcohol or drug use.
Cash bail is an anachronism that makes a bunch of money at the expense of society's undesirables, so little progress is made on fixing it. See also the private prison system.
Run by the Democratic Party. If they run pretrial services like they've run their high-speed train to nowhere, they will get societal collapse.
> Brooklyn Community Bail Fund
Where the judges are elected on Democratic Party tickets. Where the law has always said those same judges can grant bail without commercial bonds...
> (UK) Bail Act 1976
To implement this in New York would simply require removing the Democrats from the bench and finding judges who would follow the law. Scrutinize and Reinvent Albany recently did another piece about getting Democrats to follow the law already on the books.[1]
> The bail bonds industry will fight tooth and nail to keep this from happening.
Fight who? lolol Shouldn't these people be protesting car dealerships or something?
[1] https://www.scrutinize.org/opencriminalcourts