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Re:In praise of grobi for auto-configuring X11 monitors by raverbashing on Saturday May 10, 2025 @11:20AM (#43946357)
So once again you need to DYI your monitor configuration for Linux that for some reason works out-of-the-box pretty much in Windows and MacOSX

sigh

And that's for X11, which was built in a 70s model while Wayland leisurely moves forward

Re:In praise of grobi for auto-configuring X11 monitors by secure on Saturday May 10, 2025 @12:19PM (#43946793)
The Dell UP3218K monitor I describe does not work “out of the box” on any OS. Even finding a GPU that can drive it at all is tricky.
Re:In praise of grobi for auto-configuring X11 monitors by p_l on Saturday May 10, 2025 @01:26PM (#43947332)
It should work with tiled output, so long as a) it reports tiled geometry in DisplayID b) the driver handles it right.

Then it should show up as single display.

It's also how Apple XDR display presents itself to MacOS (two DisplayPort 1.4 tunnels over USB4, tiled layout in DisplayID).

I suspect it's possible that it doesn't have a valid tiled geometry block, but that's something that was already handled right when first 4k displays landed, so...

Re:In praise of grobi for auto-configuring X11 monitors by ikurei on Saturday May 10, 2025 @12:57PM (#43947110)
I use both Linux and Mac, and in my experience Mac's handling of multi-monitor setups and, specially, of them changing, is only slightly better than Linux's.

For most situations you do not need to do anything difficult to plug any number of monitors to a Linux computer with a modern, full-featured distro, other than arranging them. Mac does a better job of remembering your setup and adapting to a monitor disappearing, but it's not that much better.

I'm still not sure I understand why the author needed this tool, may be because they have more than one computer plugged into the same monitor?

Re:In praise of grobi for auto-configuring X11 monitors by fsh on Saturday May 10, 2025 @01:48PM (#43947491)
Both Gnome and KDE handle (un-)plugging external monitors just fine. And Wayland has been the standard in all relevant desktop distributions for a couple of years now.
Re:In praise of grobi for auto-configuring X11 monitors by sprash on Saturday May 10, 2025 @02:03PM (#43947615)
> while Wayland leisurely moves forward

Debateable. But it sure started with huge step backwards. On X11 all relevant functions are at least standardized within the xrandr protocol. On Wayland you don't even have that. So it really depends on the compositor if it works or not where each is doing its own thing which is just crazy. I prefer the 70s standardization model of "mechanism, not policy".

Re:In praise of grobi for auto-configuring X11 monitors by ryao on Sunday May 11, 2025 @01:19AM (#43951613)
X11 was made in September 1987, long after the 70s. All of the older ways of doing graphics were killed by it due to technical merit.
Re:In praise of grobi for auto-configuring X11 monitors by raverbashing on Sunday May 11, 2025 @03:44AM (#43952132)
Thanks I didn't realize it was so new

> older ways of doing graphics were killed by it due to technical merit.

The issue here is that a server/client architecture complicates things a lot when it's all the same machine and the security model is different

Re:In praise of grobi for auto-configuring X11 monitors by hulitu on Thursday May 15, 2025 @12:00PM (#43996383)
> for some reason works out-of-the-box pretty much in Windows

mostly. With first releases of Win 10, it was more than challenging.