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Re:How to start a school with your friends by dangus on Friday May 09, 2025 @05:54AM (#43935219)
As a note, they do handle money. They charge $600 for a course on how to replicate their community elsewhere. I don’t know about tuition for other courses because the links are broken.

Some skepticism for me creeps in the more I peruse the fractal sites. Course links for the summer semester are broken, and a lot of the working content seems to be somewhat self-indulgent, reading more like a normal unremarkable friend group.

The MLM/cult vibes I’m getting are that the main purpose and monetary incentive seems to be in the mere existence of the “community” itself, and selling that aspiration as a $600 course. The website for the course (fractalcampus.com) is a bog-standard tech startup marketing landing page including “as seen on…”, testimonials, and other calls to action to buy this $600 course.

Notable with that course, we are talking about a paid course being sold where the only person with a true success story is the person selling the course. The Boston iteration seems to only consist of a weekly dinner so far.

Doesn’t that sound familiar, like every other influencer selling a self-help course we’ve ever seen?

I think if the paid course and stated analogy to YCombinator wasn’t a part of it I would be more enthusiastic, like, “yeah this thing is awesome, a real community that goes deeper than small talk, you’re all getting together and learning from each other and truly engaging.” But then the more I think about what they’re actually doing as actions rather than words, the more I feel like this whole thing isn’t 100% honest.

The founders’ biographies support the idea that they are a tech couple who exited with lucrative equity and are now landlords as their main job and that this is a glorified real estate course. “Co-living” is just a drop-in word for “landlord.”

“FractalU isn't a business or a nonprofit. In fact, it's not a formal organization at all.”

I’d put five bucks down that there’s an LLC or trust involved somewhere.

Idk, maybe I’m reading too deep into this, but there are a lot of scams in this world and I think this might be one of them.

Re:How to start a school with your friends by CrazyStat on Friday May 09, 2025 @11:10AM (#43937667)
The instructor for each course handles the money for their own course:

> So instructors must deal with collecting money and managing taxes on their own.

Re:How to start a school with your friends by dangus on Friday May 09, 2025 @01:47PM (#43939368)
Not for the Fractal Campus Accelerator Program, which is the part of this that feels like an MLM to me.
Re:How to start a school with your friends by Alex_001 on Saturday May 10, 2025 @06:14AM (#43944507)
This thread is a great microcosm of what happens whenever ambition meets the edge of implementation.

On one hand, the idea of a peer-driven learning ecosystem feels like something worth rooting for. On the other, the moment money enters and the organizational scaffolding stays vague, the “cult vs. community” distinction blurs fast—especially when aesthetics lean tech-aspirational.

There’s a lesson here that might be bigger than just FractalU: the legitimacy of a new kind of learning space depends not just on ideals or even outcomes—but on how transparent it is about what it really is.

Curious to see whether this project evolves toward something more structured, or fades like many optimism-driven collectives.

Re:How to start a school with your friends by dangus on Saturday May 10, 2025 @05:59PM (#43949338)
I don't really agree in the sense that I don't find a problem with some tuition money being involved, that's going to be the case even with stuff you do through your local parks and recreation department.

The part that rubbed me the wrong way was specifically the way the community co-living university idea itself is being sold as an accelerator course along with all the negative aspects I described about why it feels like an MLM or a cult.

Here we've got a former software engineer and former serial startup founder basically quitting their jobs, almost certainly with big windfalls, and becoming co-living landlords selling an "accelerator" for others to start a similar scheme just feels a lot like trust fund kids who started a real estate empire from their trust fund money selling real estate courses on how you too can be just like them.

In other words, I think most people who enter the accelerator program will fail and the only winner are the founders who collect $600.

Sure, the individual professors handle tuition money and presumably the founders of this community thing don't take a cut, but IMO these volunteers are basically shoving value at them via the co-living rent and the accelerator course so that our happy-go-lucky founders are able to live a passive income lifestyle.

And again I realize I've made a lot of assumptions but when you're being literally sold something (a $600 course) skepticism is warranted.