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Re:Mistral ships le chat – enterprise AI assistant that can ... by jstummbillig on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @05:03PM (#43920529)
Nobody is seriously disputing the ownership of AI generated code. A serious dispute would be a considerable, concerted effort to stop AI code generation in any jurisdiction, that provides a contrast to the enormous, ongoing efforts by multiple large players with eye-watering investments to make code generation bigger and better.

Note, that this is not a statement about the fairness or morality of LLM building, but to think that the legality of AI code generation is something to reasonably worry about, is betting against multiple large players and their hundreds of billions of dollars in investment right now, and that likely puts you in a bad spot in reality.

Re:Mistral ships le chat – enterprise AI assistant that can ... by reverius42 on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @06:57PM (#43921348)
> Nobody is seriously disputing the ownership of AI generated code

From what I've been following it seems very likely that, at least in the US, AI-generated anything can't actually be copyrighted and thus can't have ownership at all! The legal implications of this are yet to percolate through the system though.

Re:Mistral ships le chat – enterprise AI assistant that can ... by staunton on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @07:51PM (#43921652)
Only if that interpretation lasts despite likely intense lobbying to the contrary.
Re:Mistral ships le chat – enterprise AI assistant that can ... by mistrial9 on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @08:41PM (#43921913)
this is "Kool-aid" from the supply side of LLMs for coding IMO. Plenty of people are plenty upset about the capture of code at Github corral, fed into BigCorp$ training systems.

parent statement reminds me of smug French in a castle north of London circa 1200, with furious locals standing outside the gates, dressed in rags with farm tools as weapons. One well-equipped tower guard says to another "no one is seriously disputing the administration of these lands"

Re:Mistral ships le chat – enterprise AI assistant that can ... by jstummbillig on Thursday May 08, 2025 @03:00AM (#43923794)
I think the comparison falls flat, but it's actually really funny. I'll keep it in mind.
Re:Mistral ships le chat – enterprise AI assistant that can ... by _joel on Thursday May 08, 2025 @06:32AM (#43924862)
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries?
Re:Mistral ships le chat – enterprise AI assistant that can ... by cess11 on Thursday May 08, 2025 @04:43AM (#43924305)
Other forms of LLM output is being seriously challenged however.

https://llmlitigation.com/case-updates.html

Personally I have roughly zero trust in US courts on this type of issue but we'll see how it goes. Arguably there are cases to be made where LLM:s cough up code cribbed from repos with certain licenses without crediting authors and so on. It's probably a matter of time until some aggressively litigious actors do serious, systematic attempts at getting money out of this, producing case law as a by product.

Edit: Oh right, Butterick et al went after Copilot and image generation too.

https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/case-updates.html

https://imagegeneratorlitigation.com/case-updates.html