Re:Jury orders NSO to pay $167M for hacking WhatsApp users
by saagarjha on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @05:25AM
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Honeypots to catch this kind of thing are very hard to set up. People throwing exploits are generally really careful about targeting.
Re:Jury orders NSO to pay $167M for hacking WhatsApp users
by impossiblefork on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @06:01AM
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Yes, of course, but it is possible.
For a phone though, there is an external homogeneity that could make setting it up as a honeypot easier. I'm not incredibly familiar with phone OSs, but I see it as an interesting opportunity.
Re:Jury orders NSO to pay $167M for hacking WhatsApp users
by saagarjha on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @06:58AM
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I have worked on this professionally; it's quite hard. Even getting exploits off of non-honeypot devices is hard. Setting up a honeypot adds even more complexity, especially because of how much fingerprinting attackers do. Before sending the initial payload it's likely that your phone OS, hardware model is already known–they're critical to deploying the exploit. Rough geographical location, who you've been around, which one of your devices is being targeted–all of these are not that hard to get. Once you're on the device and have elevated privileges you can run even more checks!
Re:Jury orders NSO to pay $167M for hacking WhatsApp users
by impossiblefork on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @07:59AM
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Yes, but surely getting exploits off non-honeypot devices shouldn't possible in general?
Surely it should only be generally possible if you have special monitoring.
So they do need that competence if they are to be sysadmins.