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Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by bigyabai on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @07:39PM (#43851946)
Apparently some accounts can have their edit window muzzled if a moderator chooses to. I have a reduced 10 minute edit window that was applied to my account without notice or explanation, it's fully possible that you might have one too.
Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by cantrecallmypwd on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @08:38PM (#43852367)
Selective digital apartheid.
Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by pirgidb on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @09:36PM (#43852794)
All communities (which survive) establish norms of behavior and eject or restrict people who don't abide by them. That doesn't mean the moderation of HN is beyond reproach, but "apartheid" is hyperbolic to the point of absurdity.

Apartheid wasn't about taking privileges away from people as a moderation action. It was about denying inalienable rights to people from birth. Your privilege to post on a forum is voluntarily extended to you by it's operators, and may be rescinded. It's an act of hospitality, not an inalienable right. You don't have a first amendment right to post on a forum and note than I have a first amendment right to compel your speech or demand you host me for dinner.

Apartheid wasn't enforced by mild and easily bypassed forum account restrictions. It was enforced with brutal violence.

People can get so myopic about mild inconveniences introduced to online interactions they expect to be frictionless and that they feel entitled to, and lose all perspective at the drop of a hat.

Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by bigyabai on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @10:16PM (#43853058)
I mean, it's hard for me to act like I really care. If I wanted to piss and moan about the topic du-jour I'd make a new account and wait 2 weeks. HN only censors you if you're too vain to abandon your 500 karma profile to start a new one up.

The lapse of communication is what bothers me, and I suppose it's because the moderators know they can't justify the punishment. Preventing someone from protecting their posterity is a pretty selfishly punitive measure, even if you think they abused the edit feature (somehow). It also doesn't prevent future abuse, doesn't communicate how the user can improve and therefore results in a worse community than just banning then and flagging their comments. I don't understand what the purpose of edit restrictions are in their current form, and clearly other users don't either.

It's really my fault, for coming to Hacker News and expecting to be owed anything. I should have known better than to openly criticize the tech industry on PG's own stomping grounds.

Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by collingreen on Thursday May 01, 2025 @05:13AM (#43855281)
You make a decent point in the middle of "it would be nice to get clear feedback" - I think in practice that just opens a useless argument with mods a lot of the time but I like your point.

On the other hand your last paragraph is cringe and makes me roll my eyes a lot.

You'll be ok, lots of folks in the tech industry care about you still even if pg personally doesn't.

Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by bigyabai on Thursday May 01, 2025 @07:05PM (#43864352)
It's also amusing how this comment is at +4 upvotes, but anchored underneath a -2 post because apparently I've been downranked automatically. This is real petty, you might as well [dead] everything I post before it shows up at this point.
Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by pirgidb on Thursday May 01, 2025 @10:53PM (#43865701)
+0 for what it's worth, I don't understand the ranking algorithm any better than you do but I suspect there's a lot at play and the flagging of other comments is probably related. Pure speculation.

If you wanted concrete answers, consider emailing the mods and asking.

Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @09:53PM (#43852923)
Huh. My other comments are editable way out.
Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by sshine on Thursday May 01, 2025 @07:50AM (#43856455)
I think mine is like 30 minutes.
Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by notyourwork on Thursday May 01, 2025 @12:07PM (#43859618)
How do you know what your edit window is?
Re:JetBrains defends removal of negative reviews for unpopul... by bigyabai on Thursday May 01, 2025 @04:59PM (#43863297)
I refresh the page until the edit button isn't on my comment anymore.