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Re:Waymo partners with Toyota to bring autonomous driving to... by janalsncm on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @08:17PM (#43839675)
AI isn’t magic. If there isn’t enough information in the inputs, you can’t expect reliable results. It’s the same principle in all of software: garbage in, garbage out.

If there simply isn’t enough visual information, vision-only will fail.

https://youtu.be/IQJL3htsDyQ

Re:Waymo partners with Toyota to bring autonomous driving to... by waterhouse on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @08:53PM (#43839959)
Theoretically, if there's not enough visual information for AI drivers, then there's not enough visual information for human drivers, and that's a problem with the road. (Which, to be sure, occasionally there are roads like this: e.g. merging onto a higher-speed thoroughfare from a lower level, with a very short distance between "where you're in a position to see the merging traffic (and not that much of it)" and "where the roads have fully merged (and there's no shoulder)".)
Re:Waymo partners with Toyota to bring autonomous driving to... by porphyra on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @08:21PM (#43839711)
Re:Waymo partners with Toyota to bring autonomous driving to... by sorcerer-mar on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @08:27AM (#43844236)
That is not a debunking... That's someone running a similar experiment and getting a different result. That would debunk the claim that Teslas can never detect a painted wall. It does not debunk the claim that Teslas will sometimes fail to detect a painted wall.

And in a safety-critical system, the distinction is not mere pedantry.

Re:Waymo partners with Toyota to bring autonomous driving to... by porphyra on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @09:19AM (#43844842)
I mean he didn't even use FSD.