Unauthorized experiment on r/changemyview involving AI-generated comments

Re:Unauthorized experiment on r/changemyview involving AI-ge... by godelski on Monday April 28, 2025 @05:19PM (#43826235)

  > Plenty of regulation is done proactively.

I'll concede. You're right. But this also is not the norm, despite my best wishes that it was.

  > I think our disagreement stems from this belief:

But I still think there's a critical element you are ignoring and I'm trying to stress over and over and over. YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THIS FOR A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD

  >> if regulation works 100% of the time or not
  >>>> If regulation works perfectly, you'll never have to do anything, right? But if it doesn't, then you provide a line of defense. So I don't see your argument. You can't expect anything to work 100%, so what then?

This concept is littered all throughout every single one of my comments and you have blatantly ignored it. I'm sorry, if you cannot even acknowledge the very foundation of my concern, I don't know how you can expect me to believe you are acting in good faith. This is at the root of my agitation.

  > The series of law-suits you mention only proves my point. We expect companies that break the law to be punished for their action

No it doesn't, because you are ignoring my point. I am not arguing against regulation. I am not arguing that regulation doesn't provide incentives.

My claim of lawsuits existing was to evidence the claim

  Regulations are not enough to stop the behavior before it occurs.

Again, this is the point you are ignoring and why no conversation is actually taking place.

  > although I would argue that the regulator is generally far too lazy in pursuing legal actions against companies that break the law.

Great! So you agree that regulation isn't enough and that regulation fails. You've tried very hard to avoid taking the next step. "WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN REGULATION FAILS?" Seriously, are you even reading my comments? At this point I can't figure out if I'm talking to a wall or an LLM. But either way, no conversation will continue unless you are unwilling to address this. You need to stop and ask yourself "what is godelski trying to communicate" and "why is godelski constantly insisting I am misunderstanding their argument?" So far your interpretations have no resolved the issue, maybe try something different.

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Re:Unauthorized experiment on r/changemyview involving AI-ge... by runarberg on Monday April 28, 2025 @06:43PM (#43826928)

> WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN REGULATION FAILS?

I expect better regulations and/or enforcement.

I am speaking around it because it seems obvious. If we have good regulation and enforcement of these regulations there is no need for self-regulation. While we don‘t have good regulation, or a regulator unwilling to enforce existing regulation, the go-to action is not to amass self-regulation (because it will not work) but to demand better regulation, and to demand the regulator does their job. That is at least how you would expect things to work in a democracy.

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