Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal
by petertodd on Monday April 28, 2025 @03:03PM
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Also, the data center is probably in a city, surrounded by infrastructure that could be used if necessary. An oil rig is in the middle of an ocean, and has to rely on itself.
Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal
by rainbowzootsuit on Monday April 28, 2025 @09:29PM
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I worked with a telecom provider's data center that ended up having a quad redundant diesel generator failure during the first cold snap that took the Texas grid offline a few years back. They had at three fuel supplies gel and then failed to start. The fourth, as I remember, just didn't try to fire.
Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal
by 20after4 on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @12:11AM
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Lead acid batteries are not exactly what I would call reliable. They require a lot of constant maintenance to ensure that they will work when you need them and they can easily degrade in such a way that they maintain voltage and appear to be good but then fail to deliver the needed amps when you demand them. This is made much worse in cold weather. Finally, if allowed to freeze when they are moderately drained, then the accumulated water inside will freeze and drastically shorten their life span.
I think I'd take Lithium Ion batteries over lead acid for almost every conceivable use-case. They are superior in almost every way. Lighter, less likely to leak acid everywhere, better long term storage (due to a low self-discharge) and better cold weather discharge performance. The only drawback would be a slightly increased risk of fire with Lithium.
Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal
by LargoLasskhyfv on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @05:07AM
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Yawn. Have you ever heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VRLA_battery#Gel_battery Mr.Model-Tee?
Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal
by LorenPechtel on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @06:36PM
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Yeah. I've watched a UPS kick in with old batteries. The steps on the power gauge ticked off every couple of seconds.
Could the batteries be dead and the generators not start? I guess but it's very unlikely. I get that on an oil rig it might be a matter of life and death and you need some kind of manual way to bootstrap but there's not much that's more reliable than a 12V lead-acid battery and a diesel engine in good condition.