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Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by CharlieDigital on Thursday April 24, 2025 @08:48AM (#43782085)
It's a tough trade off. On the one hand, having a child in your 20's is how our biology is wired. On the other hand, in the modern age, those are also prime years for work and professional growth; I get it.

Last year, I (in my 40's) did a trip to Terceira[0] and after a few days of hiking, had shooting pain in my knee. I immediately wondered if I had torn something! It would be quite the pickle since I had traveled with a backpack. Luckily, it was ITBS (Iliotibial band syndrome) and went away with some Acetaminophen and rest.

But it made me regret that in my 20's I spent more time playing computer games than doing things like this hike that would be even challenging if I were to wait until I retired.

[0] https://youtu.be/DlFKc4OfbpM Terceira is a spectacular destination, by the way, and easy to access from JFK.

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Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by mattgreenrocks on Thursday April 24, 2025 @08:52AM (#43782123)
20s in tech is basically show up, do your work, and get paid a pittance of the value it generates.
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Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by robertlagrant on Thursday April 24, 2025 @09:12AM (#43782310)
That's just "employment", or at least "not realising how many other people contribute to that value".
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Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by mattgreenrocks on Thursday April 24, 2025 @01:00PM (#43784947)
Sure. But the pay gap can be huge compared to your 30s, regardless of your ability level.
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Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by int_19h on Thursday April 24, 2025 @01:52PM (#43785513)
It applies to those other people as well, though.

When you get down to it, all profit any company makes is quite literally the value generated by its employees that was extracted from them.

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Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by robertlagrant on Friday April 25, 2025 @05:32AM (#43791790)
All profit made by an employee is value invested by a business' owners and creditors extracted from it.

So what? You just seem to have found a perjorative way to describe work. If I pay someone to fix my tap the comfort I have now my taps work comes from me "extracting" value from the plumber?

And it's worse than that. Profit isn't just employee work. If I buy a robot to replace an employee, I might have more profit. And it's not just that work. It's also contracts with other suppliers, and risks, and debt to pay back, and decisions made, and agreements and relationships, and automation.

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