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Re:Cars and Key Fobs: Attacks on Car Remotes by H8crilA on Thursday April 24, 2025 @07:58AM (#43781656)
It is superior, but a lot more difficult to pull off. And what if raking takes just 5-15 seconds? Because that's how fast it often is.

And in either case you still need to deal with the immobilizer, and turn the core of the ignition lock. Unless your radio device is that comprehensive :)

Re:Cars and Key Fobs: Attacks on Car Remotes by Crosseye_Jack on Thursday April 24, 2025 @08:12AM (#43781771)
Presuming its a modern car (and if we are talking about keyless entry/start we are), well then you just plug an "Emergency Start Device" into the OBD port and drive away. Heck a lot of these "Emergency Start Devices" can also unlock the car, but often involve pulling panels/lights from the car to get to the can bus to run the attack.

So that attack when done on its own is mainly left to stealing cars off drives at night rather than say from a supermarkets car park during the day.

Re:Cars and Key Fobs: Attacks on Car Remotes by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday April 24, 2025 @09:18AM (#43782373)
Push-to-start eliminates the need to turn a physical lock. They drop to zero security once their RF is broken.