The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet

Re:The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet by heavensteeth on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @10:30AM (#43772668)

Recently I've had Google return results lacking search terms I've put in quotes (and then clicked "Show results for xxx instead" when it tries to 'correct' me). I have no idea how I'm supposed to make my desire any clearer.

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Re:The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet by bityard on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @11:49AM (#43773499)

It has been a long time since double quotes worked reliably for me on Google.

It has also been a long time since Google showed me any search results that weren't 100% ad-laden blogspam with wordy vague (and often incorrect) content with clickbait titles. I have basically given up on Google altogether.

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Re:The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet by autoexec on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @01:20PM (#43774410)

I stopped using Google at work when they forced javascript. Since then I realized that I haven't missed it at all and I've stopped using it entirely. It's become trash.

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Re:The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet by Ma8ee on Thursday April 24, 2025 @01:27AM (#43779529)

What do you use instead?

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Re:The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet by eitland on Thursday April 24, 2025 @08:15AM (#43781793)

Not GP but I have used Marginalia + DDG until 3 years ago and Kagi since then.

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Re:The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet by int_19h on Thursday April 24, 2025 @09:59AM (#43782913)

+1 for Kagi. If you want a search engine that works with you rather than against you, this is it right now.

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Re:The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet by john2095 on Monday April 28, 2025 @06:58AM (#43819831)

An LLM (ChatGPT/"AI").

phone: * that circle in whatsapp * find a freebie chatgpt proxy in telegram

web * "copilot" in ms Edge browser * https://kagi.com/fastgpt * https://grok.com/ * https://claude.ai

I find the need for a "search engine" reduced very considerably with all these "answer this question (NOW!)" options so readily available. They're the modern day "I feel lucky" button.

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Re:The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet by caxon26 on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @10:40AM (#43772770)

Googles a little better about matching exact terms if you go to search tools -> all results and change it to Verbatim

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Re:The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet by prepend on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @01:16PM (#43774376)

Every single search. It’s funny to me that Google doesn’t let you default this setting and a sign they they are quite anti-user.

I wonder what employees of Google actually use. Is there a non-crappy version of Google that actually meets their needs and returns what they need?

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Re:The Gruen Transfer is consuming the internet by eitland on Thursday April 24, 2025 @08:14AM (#43781785)

This has been going on for over a decade for me now (I know because I blogged about it at the time).

For years I used DDG, not because it was better, but it wasn't worse and I wanted to support competition.

Then I started using Marginalia and shortly after I found Kagi.

Kagi works like Google used to do (and has a range of nice extra features) and in the very unusual situations were it doesn't work, when I posted it to the forums it was quickly acknowledged and dealt with.

Extremely refreshing to be on the customer side of a search engine the last three years instead of being some kind of livestock for Googles ad sales machine.

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