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Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by bambax on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @09:02AM (#43771668)
Yes.

> Prime Minister John Diefenbaker [ordered] all the completed planes (five plus a nearly finished sixth) to be chopped up and destroyed, along with all plans and blueprints so that the plane could never fly again.

Stopping the program was understandable, but the destruction is mysterious and the article doesn't say a word about why. Strange.

Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by antonvs on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @09:08AM (#43771715)
Politics. Diefenbaker had a conservative majority. Destroying everything made it much more difficult for a future Liberal government to restart the program.
Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by vlvdus on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @09:29AM (#43771931)
Why would a future Liberal goverment restart it if the past one wanted to shut it down but didn't have the guts (or at least that's my understanding of the article)?
Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by mjevans on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @10:31AM (#43772680)
Ban / "Burn the books" does seem to fall on the 'conservative' side of the spectrum every time I can recall.
Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by RajT88 on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @11:34AM (#43773339)
That is why Trump supporters are buying Teslas.

They are electric and have no trans.

Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by lupusreal on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @03:47PM (#43775970)
That's only a funny joke if you dare to tell it right. Transmissions are called trannies.
Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by hylaride on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @10:24AM (#43772598)
Killing it was the right call for the wrong reasons. But because it was the wrong reasons, it meant that no attention was paid on investing the tech into a new plane or resources.

Diefenbaker being "suckered" by the Americans is not what really happened (the CBC mini-series on the Arrow has some really cringey scenes about that angle, as well as portraying conservative party ineptitude and American arrogance). The more you read into Diefenbaker, the more he comes across as vain and susceptible to overreacting to slights (perceived or real), in over his head on the international stage, and ignorant of cold war realities (despite it being his government that had Canada form NORAD with the US).

It did set the stage for Canada's mercurial relationship with the United States, as Canada tended to over-react and over-compensate our opinions in both directions since then. This still continues to this day.

Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by lenerdenator on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @09:54AM (#43772238)
Besides security reasons?
Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by the_af on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @10:37AM (#43772741)
Which security reasons does the article state for not keeping at least one prototype (in a museum, without security-ensitive parts) and the blueprints?

As far as I can tell they only kept part of the nose/cockpit.

Honestly asking, I might have missed it.

Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by kens on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @12:10PM (#43773713)
Interestingly, the nose of the plane was only preserved because someone hid it. It was supposed to be destroyed too.
Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by cf100clunk on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @11:16AM (#43773149)
The article doesn't get into how Soviet spies were uncovered in Canada in the 1950s and 60s. Governments were not being paranoid in the face of those revelations.
Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by the_af on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @01:34PM (#43774572)
Right, the spy threat would be the "security reasons" I guessed at.

But still, wouldn't successful projects which were later decommissioned be more at risk of spies than an unsuccessful project? Yet successful projects do not have their blueprints and airframes routinely destroyed without a trace.

Re:Sixty Years On, We Still Dream of the Arrow by lupusreal on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @12:19PM (#43773816)
Humiliation ritual.