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Re:MinC Is Not Cygwin by cess11 on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @07:36AM (#43770906)
Installing WSL was much harder than 'download and double click EXE' when I last did it. The 'app' shop installed something botched I now can't easily get rid of and then I had to do a few Powershell incantations to actually get an install that boots a Linux-like terminal. If I had to use Linux under Windows more than a few hours per year I'd Hyper-V it instead.

I'd also guess 'telemetry' pumps out all one does in WSL, while this might leak less of what the kids are doing.

Re:MinC Is Not Cygwin by ryao on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @09:13AM (#43771771)
I doubt that, since telemetry slows things down and it has been found that software runs faster under WSL than native Windows. A quick search found this, which shows a substantial performance difference for the same thing between native Windows and WSL:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/vtc0fy/wsl2_faster_th...

There have been others who observed the same in the past (and with WSL1), although I do not have a list. I recall reading libc telemetry hooks on Windows that are absent as being claimed to be the cause, but I cannot find the page where I read that. The Reddit post has the alternative suggestion that process creation speed is the cause.

Re:MinC Is Not Cygwin by cess11 on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @04:07PM (#43776134)
Suggesting that the entirety of the performance difference between Windows and WSL is due to telemetry is by far the weirdest MICROS~1 apologia I've come across.

Performance on my bare metal Linux machines is even better. Do you consider this to be sufficient proof that WSL has telemetry hooked into it?

Re:MinC Is Not Cygwin by ryao on Thursday April 24, 2025 @05:05AM (#43780626)
No, since Windows is less efficient in general.
Re:MinC Is Not Cygwin by cess11 on Thursday April 24, 2025 @07:40AM (#43781515)
OK, so you agree that your argument was flawed.
Re:MinC Is Not Cygwin by Firehawke on Monday April 28, 2025 @12:04AM (#43817421)
Installing WSL2 as of the latest versions of Windows is as simple as "wsl --install" to get a basic Ubuntu install set up. It'll do all the steps, including turning on all necessary Windows features, in a single command.