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Re:China Can Have It All – China is currently winner of Amer... by asplake on Saturday April 19, 2025 @01:20PM (#43737835)
Demographics is a problem for the US also, but the easiest solution, immigration, is no longer acceptable (if ever it was) to an increasingly vocal minority. To be fair to the US, that situation is shared by many other countries in the West, and I'm not sure that China is ready for that solution either.
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Re:China Can Have It All – China is currently winner of Amer... by Jensson on Saturday April 19, 2025 @03:20PM (#43738730)
Illegal immigration is a bipartisan issue both democrat and republican voters want to kick them out, it isn't some vocal minority.

Billionaires wants them here, not poor people.

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Re:China Can Have It All – China is currently winner of Amer... by ethbr1 on Saturday April 19, 2025 @08:48PM (#43740688)
> Billionaires wants them here, not poor people.

Given poor people are more dependent on welfare and social security (having no plan B, like wealthy folks do), they should be the ones most in favor of population (and therefore economic) growth.

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Re:China Can Have It All – China is currently winner of Amer... by DontchaKnowit on Saturday April 19, 2025 @09:51PM (#43740965)
Except illegal immigrants arent paying into social security... so whats your point
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Re:China Can Have It All – China is currently winner of Amer... by ethbr1 on Sunday April 20, 2025 @07:39PM (#43747358)
Illegal immigrants aren't getting social security either, but are paying into sales tax.

Which means they're doing their part to support 30% of state budgets, in addition to the businesses they're working for who are paying their own taxes.

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Re:China Can Have It All – China is currently winner of Amer... by DontchaKnowit on Sunday April 20, 2025 @11:58PM (#43748400)
yeah but the parent commenter was specifically talking about social security, illegal immigrants aren't contributing to social security
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Re:China Can Have It All – China is currently winner of Amer... by ethbr1 on Monday April 21, 2025 @02:51PM (#43755172)
That if the economy craters, because suddenly population growth isn't buttressed by immigration (legal or illegal), then both social security and welfare rapidly become unfundable, and the poor suffer more than billionaires.

Ergo, poor people should be in favor of any sort of immigration.

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