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Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by wlesieutre on Thursday April 17, 2025 @10:10PM (#43724252)
The 4x 18V/5Ah batteries that came with my lawnmower (which uses them in pairs) are retailing for for $560.

And then not as any sort of special deal, just the standard retail bundle, the lawnmower with four batteries included costs $700. So that's $560 of batteries and $140 of lawnmower.

It's funny how lithium ion cell prices have absolutely cratered everywhere else, but the price of tool batteries just keeps going up.

I wish there was somebody making reputable quality compatible tool batteries instead of mystery brand counterfeit trash.

Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by terribleperson on Friday April 18, 2025 @02:17AM (#43725511)
At this point I suspect the only way we're getting compatible tool batteries is if the E.U. comes out with regulation.

No company actually wants to make it easier for people to buy other tool brands.

Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by simondotau on Friday April 18, 2025 @04:36AM (#43726162)
Before the EU can do that, someone will have to define a standard.
Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by Already__Taken on Friday April 18, 2025 @06:36AM (#43726717)
That is how the EU will do that.
Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by simondotau on Thursday April 24, 2025 @05:20AM (#43780708)
That's not how literally anything works, or has ever worked.
Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by throwaway81523 on Friday April 18, 2025 @05:54AM (#43726506)
ceenr.com batteries appear to be ok.
Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by blagie on Friday April 18, 2025 @09:00AM (#43727681)
Curiously, the mystery brand Bosch-compatible batteries on I bought on eBay -- literally cheapest seller -- seem to work very well even after years.

With brandless batteries, it's luck-of-the-draw, but overall, as much as I do wish there were some way to know what you're getting, I've had good luck more often than not.

What's also been nice is the rise of adapters. My Bosch blue batteries now fit many places they didn't used to.

Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by freedomben on Friday April 18, 2025 @02:48PM (#43730827)
I wish these manufacturers wouldn't go brandless, because I've found some cheap but great laptop chargers in the past that I would buy a ton of if I knew who made them, but the brandless nature means that once that seller is done or out of stock, it's back to crapshoot.

Some of these brandless Chinese makes are really solid, high quality products, but you can't easily tell which ones because they're visually indistinguishable from the bad ones.

Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by bsoles on Friday April 18, 2025 @09:12AM (#43727769)
> It's funny how lithium ion cell prices have absolutely cratered everywhere else, but the price of tool batteries just keeps going up.

Seems like the tool batteries might be the new ink cartridges.

Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by eth0up on Friday April 18, 2025 @09:52AM (#43728108)
Re:Milwaukee M18 Battery Reverse Engineering by Panzer04 on Friday April 18, 2025 @10:21AM (#43728347)
You get what you pay for.

Tool batteries as a general rule don't do anything fancy internally, so they are easily substituted. I suspect it's mostly a matter of the main buyers being tradies/workers who use them to make money and thus don't care that much about the expense of the batteries - they probably aren't replaced that often.

Would be nice if there was a 3rd-party seller known to use quality cells though, rather than unknown off brands.