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Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by slackr on Thursday April 17, 2025 @02:01AM (#43713558)
ICJ judges in The Hague, including Israel’s appointed judge, deemed it necessary to remind Israel to respect the Palestinians’ right to not be genocided away. https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/South_Africa_v._Israel_(Ord...
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Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by immibis on Thursday April 17, 2025 @04:10AM (#43714241)
Please don't defend Hitler on Hacker News.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by chrismorgan on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:45AM (#43713485)
>>> This block was the result of a communication error between Zoom’s domain registrar, Markmonitor, and GoDaddy Registry, which resulted in GoDaddy Registry mistakenly shutting down zoom.us domain.

That sounds like MarkMonitor is at least partly at fault here.

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by NewJazz on Thursday April 17, 2025 @02:02AM (#43713562)
I mean, one person is saying what to do and the other person is doing it. And the person doing things is taking down zoom.us... Also knowing who godaddy is and what they do...
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by subscribed on Thursday April 17, 2025 @12:19PM (#43718982)
Mark Monitor have issued a correct request for the `serverUpdateProhibited`, but GoDaddy changed the code to `serverHold` instead.

100% on the GoDaddy staff.

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by oarsinsync on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:25PM (#43719802)
> Mark Monitor have issued a correct request for the `serverUpdateProhibited`, but GoDaddy changed the code to `serverHold` instead.

I’m curious about where are you seeing what Mark Monitor requested? It doesn’t appear in the official status update. Is this public information formally posted somewhere we can all see?

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by Hackbraten on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:53AM (#43713523)
There are countries whose ccTLD registrars are impeccably well-run and have been for decades, such as DENIC, the entity that oversees the .de ccTLD.

If you're based in Germany, I don't see a reason why you would want to avoid .de domains.

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by immibis on Thursday April 17, 2025 @04:09AM (#43714237)
Them being subject to the pretty draconian laws of Germany is a minus for most people if they had no other reason to have to follow those laws (such as not being in Germany).
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by moe_sc on Thursday April 17, 2025 @10:17AM (#43717218)
Mind ellaborating what draconian laws you are talking about?
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by immibis on Thursday April 17, 2025 @11:45AM (#43718545)
If it's not strictly non-commercial then you have to publish your fill name and home address prominently on it. You can't say anything insulting about anyone, even if true. And you can't criticize what Israel did because it's considered antisemitism.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by lxgr on Thursday April 17, 2025 @11:50AM (#43718609)
> If it's not strictly non-commercial then you have to publish your fill name and home address prominently on it.

Under German law, as far as I understand this is true for publications "addressed to a German audience" regardless of your domain's TLD, your server location etc.

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by lxgr on Thursday April 17, 2025 @11:44AM (#43718525)
Somebody that is based in Germany (which is what GP was recommending .de for) is usually subject to German law, due to... being in Germany.

And conversely, when not based in Germany, you'd need a proxy Administrative Contact anyway. (Registrars can probably provide that for you, but it seems like asking for trouble.)

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by NewJazz on Thursday April 17, 2025 @02:00AM (#43713555)
There are definitely exceptions, and having a connection to the country in question helps, but unfortunately countries seem to enshittify in different but similar ways as old companies.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by chrismorgan on Thursday April 17, 2025 @02:02AM (#43713561)
> Financially, a proper gTLD also can't raise prices unilaterally and weirdly, while if you pick a ccTLD, the country has free reign to arbitrarily change prices, delete your domain, take over your domain, etc etc.

Look into what’s happened with pricing on domains like .org and .info. They’re increasingly absurd, with the restrictions on price increases that once were there largely being removed, at the pushing of the sharks that bought the registrar. Why are these prices increasing well above inflation rate, when if anything the costs should go down over time? Why is .info now almost twice as expensive as .com?

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by agwa on Thursday April 17, 2025 @08:26AM (#43715794)
Although the .org price caps are gone, the registry has to raise prices uniformly for all domains. They can't target popular domains for discriminatory pricing. ccTLDs can.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by ryan29 on Thursday April 17, 2025 @12:14PM (#43718900)
> They can't target popular domains for discriminatory pricing.

That's not completely accurate. Section 2.10c of the base registry agreement says the following in relation to the uniform pricing obligations:

> The foregoing requirements of this Section 2.10(c) shall not apply for (i) purposes of determining Renewal Pricing if the registrar has provided Registry Operator with documentation that demonstrates that the applicable registrant expressly agreed in its registration agreement with registrar to higher Renewal Pricing at the time of the initial registration

Most registrars have blanket statements in their registration agreement that say premium domains may be subject to higher renewal pricing. For registry premium domains, there are no contractual limits on pricing or price discrimination. AFAIK, the registries can price premium domains however they want.

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by agwa on Thursday April 17, 2025 @12:25PM (#43719076)
You omitted key portions of that section. Here's the full quote (emphasis added):

> The foregoing requirements of this Section 2.10(c) shall not apply for (i) purposes of determining Renewal Pricing if the registrar has provided Registry Operator with documentation that demonstrates that the applicable registrant expressly agreed in its registration agreement with registrar to higher Renewal Pricing at the time of the initial registration of the domain name following clear and conspicuous disclosure of such Renewal Pricing to such registrant

Furthermore:

> The parties acknowledge that the purpose of this Section 2.10(c) is to prohibit abusive and/or discriminatory Renewal Pricing practices imposed by Registry Operator without the written consent of the applicable registrant at the time of the initial registration of the domain and this Section 2.10(c) will be interpreted broadly to prohibit such practices

Yes, premium domains can be priced higher, but the Renewal Pricing has to be "clear and conspicuous" to the registrant at the time of initial registration. Are you aware of any litigation related to this?

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by ryan29 on Thursday April 17, 2025 @07:13PM (#43723221)
The exact pricing isn’t disclosed. All they do is tell you the price will be “higher”. Anyone registering a premium domain is getting higher than uniform renewal pricing, so whatever they’re doing right now is considered adequate and that’s just generic ToS in the registration agreement AFAIK.

It sounds like you think I’m being deceptive. Do you know about any registry premium domains where someone has a contractually guaranteed price?

Also, based on my own anecdotal experience, ICANN doesn’t interpret 2.10c broadly and they allow the registries to push the boundaries as much as they want.

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by Animats on Sunday April 20, 2025 @05:24PM (#43746636)
> MarkMonitor isn't at fault here.

Yes, it is.

"Their enforcement team works with platforms to remove infringing content and can even help with legal proceedings if needed. They don't just find problems—they help solve them through their connections with major online platforms and their understanding of takedown procedures."

What you're paying for is MarkMonitor's people having the cell phone number of the guy at the operations end of whatever point in the chain screwed up. At least that was their original pitch. Now, they have a whole range of tracking services which you can get elsewhere.