Re:Decline in European Travelers to U.S.
by laurencerowe on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @04:25PM
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> I regret not having had the chance to visit the states in the 80s.
US big cities were far worse in the 80s than they are today. New York City had a homicide rate of 25.8 in 1980 and it is now 5.3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#Murders...
While still several times higher than other developed countries it is lower than the US average of 6.3.
Re:Decline in European Travelers to U.S.
by dragonwriter on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @04:38PM
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> I regret not having had the chance to visit the states in the 80s.
Every one if the problems you complain of was far worse in the 1980s, except maybe the “expensive” one because all the others drove down desirability. so I don't know why, if they are problems for you now, you would regret missing the opportunity to experience them at their more intense levels then.
Like, seriously, urban crime rates were many times higher, homelessness share of the population was higher (and rising more rapidly), etc.
Re:Decline in European Travelers to U.S.
by potato3732842 on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @04:50PM
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IDK man, really depends on where you visit. The few dozen big cities we currently associate with wealth were doing way worse, but the hundreds of smaller cities we currently associate with the poverty of former manufacturing and industry were generally doing a lot better.
- Expensive
- Crime ridden
- Full of homeless and drug addicts
I don't care who is your supreme leader of the day, they're all useless.
I regret not having had the chance to visit the states in the 80s. I think I'll hit Japan and South Korea, while there's still people.