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Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by dmd on Monday April 14, 2025 @01:10PM (#43683534)
Gemini 2.5 Pro gets 64% on SWE-bench verified. Sonnet 3.7 gets 70%

They are reporting that GPT-4.1 gets 55%.

Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by egeozcan on Monday April 14, 2025 @02:14PM (#43684400)
Very interesting. For my use cases, Gemini's responses beat Sonnet 3.7's like 80% of the time (gut feeling, didn't collect actual data). It beats Sonnet 100% of the time when the context gets above 120k.
Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by int_19h on Monday April 14, 2025 @04:34PM (#43686014)
As usual with LLMs. In my experience, all those metrics are useful mainly to tell which models are definitely bad, but doesn't tell you much about which ones are good, and especially not how the good ones stack against each other in real world use cases.

Andrej Karpathy famously quipped that he only trusts two LLM evals: Chatbot Arena (which has humans blindly compare and score responses), and the r/LocalLLaMA comment section.

Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by ezyang on Monday April 14, 2025 @07:38PM (#43687462)
Lmarena isn't that useful anymore lol
Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by int_19h on Monday April 14, 2025 @10:32PM (#43688484)
I actually agree with that, but it's generally better than other scores. Also, the quote is like a year old at this point.

In practice you have to evaluate the models yourself for any non-trivial task.

Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by hmottestad on Monday April 14, 2025 @01:16PM (#43683635)
Are those with «thinking» or without?
Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by sanxiyn on Monday April 14, 2025 @02:12PM (#43684380)
Sonnet 3.7's 70% is without thinking, see https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-7-sonnet
Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by energy123 on Monday April 14, 2025 @01:35PM (#43683918)
With
Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by chaos_emergent on Monday April 14, 2025 @01:46PM (#43684043)
based on their release cadence, I suspect that o4-mini will compete on price, performance, and context length with the rest of these models.
Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by hecticjeff on Monday April 14, 2025 @02:15PM (#43684423)
o4-mini, not to be confused with 4o-mini
Re:GPT-4.1 in the API by aledalgrande on Monday April 14, 2025 @09:43PM (#43688196)
The thinking tokens (even just 1024) make a massive difference in real world tasks with 3.7 in my experience