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Re:Neutrinos' maximum possible mass shrinks further by moi2388 on Monday April 14, 2025 @01:51AM (#43678437)
TIL you can express mass in volts, and that electrons do not have a mass of 1 electron volt.
Re:Neutrinos' maximum possible mass shrinks further by bezmiran on Monday April 14, 2025 @02:04AM (#43678492)
Because an eV is a unit of energy (1 eV = 1.602e-19 Joules). It's defined as the kinetic energy of an electron that is accelerated by a potential difference of 1 Volt, nothing to do with its rest mass.

When rest mass is stated in energy units such as eV, they're calculating it using E=mc^2.

Re:Neutrinos' maximum possible mass shrinks further by maxnoe on Monday April 14, 2025 @02:11AM (#43678522)
You can express rest energy in electron volt, a unit of energy. The energy an electron gains by being accelerated in an electric field of 1 Volt.

But since E=mc², you can say the mass is X eV/c² and then people become lazy and forget the c² or even define a new system of units in which c=1.

Re:Neutrinos' maximum possible mass shrinks further by perihelions on Monday April 14, 2025 @04:43AM (#43679299)
- "or even define a new system of units in which c=1"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_units

Re:Neutrinos' maximum possible mass shrinks further by _kulang on Monday April 14, 2025 @02:06AM (#43678495)
More specifically it’s that you can express mass as energy, and that voltage is the energy per unit charge
Re:Neutrinos' maximum possible mass shrinks further by drdeca on Monday April 14, 2025 @02:02AM (#43678481)
Volts are energy per charge, right? So the cost of moving X charge from one place to another where the electric potential between them differs by voltage V, is X V?

Kind of like how lifting a mass involves increasing the g h , so costs energy m g h ?

Re:Neutrinos' maximum possible mass shrinks further by filmor on Monday April 14, 2025 @07:30AM (#43680156)
Others have explained it already, but just to make this clear: The mass is not expressed in volts but in "electron volts" that is a different unit in the same sense as "watt hours" is a measure of energy and not time.
Re:Neutrinos' maximum possible mass shrinks further by thatnerd on Monday April 14, 2025 @12:14PM (#43682899)
You can't express mass in volts. A volt is energy per unit of charge. To get energy, you need to multiply by a charge.

One Joule of energy is what you get when you move one Coulomb of charge across a 1V potential.

One electronVolt (eV) is the energy you get from moving one electron's worth of charge across 1 volt of potential.

It's an accident of what we chose to be a Joule of energy and what we chose to be a Coulomb of charge, so there should be no expectation that this would turn out to be the mass of an electron (when divided by the square of the speed of light, which is unstated because everyone knows E = mc^2).