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Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by JumpCrisscross on Sunday April 13, 2025 @07:58PM (#43676802)
> the founders have different stock class than employees

This is super uncommon.

> stocks which are traded on the NYSE so nobody can cook the books without commiting securities fraud

The exact same fraud rules apply to private and public stock.

Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by iancmceachern on Sunday April 13, 2025 @08:01PM (#43676820)
I've personally seen it happen multiple times from inside, it happens all the time.

It happened in the largest medtech acquisition in history (at the time) its Public knowledge.

Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by JumpCrisscross on Sunday April 13, 2025 @08:07PM (#43676858)
> personally seen it happen multiple times from inside, it happens all the time

I’m not saying it doesn’t. Just that founders having a separate class of stock is very, very rare.

> happened in the largest medtech acquisition in history (at the time) its Public knowledge

Supervoting stock is absolutely a thing with companies. We’re not talking about that. We’re talking about start-up founders.

Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by iancmceachern on Sunday April 13, 2025 @08:11PM (#43676880)
Its very common, so common that they call them "founders shares"
Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by dilyevsky on Sunday April 13, 2025 @09:31PM (#43677268)
That’s not what that term means
Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by iancmceachern on Sunday April 13, 2025 @09:39PM (#43677314)
Please enlighten us
Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by dilyevsky on Sunday April 13, 2025 @10:02PM (#43677424)
Founder stock almost always convert to common not preferred. Carta article about it: https://carta.com/learn/startups/equity-management/founder-s...

I recommend researching a topic at least a little bit before going on and commenting on it

Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by iancmceachern on Monday April 14, 2025 @03:27AM (#43678917)
This serves my point not yours, the process is often very misunderstood by those being promised the equity, and it's often "converted" in ways that dilutes or outright takes away most of the value by the time the employees ever see financial gains from the equity.
Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by dcow on Monday April 14, 2025 @10:01AM (#43681392)
That’s not what happens. Literally TFA covers the term “founders stock”. It really is a meaningless term to refer to common stock held by a founder.
Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by JumpCrisscross on Monday April 14, 2025 @01:56AM (#43678454)
Not a separate class of shares. Almost always, founder shares refer to the magnitude of the grant and the voting-rights agreement attached to it. ("Stock class" is a very specific term.)
Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by Seattle3503 on Sunday April 13, 2025 @08:03PM (#43676836)
Where can I read more about this?
Re:The Open Guide to Equity Compensation by iancmceachern on Sunday April 13, 2025 @08:12PM (#43676881)