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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by callamdelaney on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @05:49PM (#43638399)
Weird, the bill of rights act of 1689 is still in force.

It’s literally the policy of this country to sentence white men to harsher custodial sentences with more chance of a custodial sentence than any other group, simply for the crime of being a white man. Are these the sorts of people you think should decide our rights?

If the government would do what people have been voting for for decades and end mass immigration and take real action on this ridiculous and purposeful misuse of the human rights act, then nobody would want to redact it.

But they won’t.

Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by immibis on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @06:46PM (#43638829)
> [things identical to neonazi propaganda]

Please provide some evidence that you aren't coming from the same place as the neonazis, lest you be viewed as one because you're saying the exact same things as they do.

Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by callamdelaney on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @07:18PM (#43639031)
Ah yes, because being concerned about mass immigration makes you a nazi. Thanks for your contribution. The men that fought and died fighting the real nazis would have the very same concern. Were they nazis too?
Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by philjohn on Thursday April 10, 2025 @01:48AM (#43641036)
It is not the "policy of this country" you need to actually read how things work, what bodies have what power, and who is doing what.

The sentencing council is an independant body, they are not the government, and the government has said "no, that's not right" so they're passing a bill to stop the new guidelines coming into effect: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-introduce-l...

Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by callamdelaney on Thursday April 10, 2025 @06:10AM (#43642436)
It's the policy of this country, it doesn't matter who sets it.

It doesn't matter if it's set by parliament. It doens't matter if it's set by an independent body. The fact is that you will receive a harsher sentence for being a white male than you will if you belong to any other group. That is the policy. The Conservative government thought that was the right thing to do.

Apparently the new government 'will' introduce a bill to stop this, but they haven't yet. So it's still the policy.

Meanwhile it's legal and popular to discriminate against white men and women on the basis of being white - the government, police and military regularly put out jobs only for none whites. But if I were to put out a role only for whites, that's against the law. This discrimination extends to our top universities where it's becoming much more difficult (relative to population %) to obtain a spot as a white student.

That's why people think this country is now a two tier system, and they're right. Opportunities are being taken from those who have earned them and given to those who have not. Meritocracy and equality under the law is already long gone.

Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by philjohn on Thursday April 10, 2025 @06:41AM (#43642594)
Again, you're just regurgitating what Reform talking heads are saying.

You probably didn't even realise that the sentencing guidelines were put on hold on the 31st of March.

Got any proof that the fall in white admission to university is down to discrimination, and not the relative poorer showing of the native population compared to first and second generation immigrants who put a higher premium on doing well at school?

Also can you respond with some of the "non whites only" job postings?

Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by callamdelaney on Thursday April 10, 2025 @07:33AM (#43642823)
Between 2019 and 2023 28.8% [0] of students admitted to Oxford were of ethnic minority background. Cambridge admitted 34% [1] ethnic minority students in 2023. That means you're roughly twice as likely to be admitted to a top university as a minority student.

It's possible that some percentage of this is because of better academic achievement, though in that case it's confusing that Oxbridge are looking to remove exams due to underperformance of students of ethnic minority background in tests [2] - which would support my view that it is easier to study at these institutions if you aren't white. but it's also possible that the education system is systematically 'letting down' white boys, which is a view supported by an education committee report (and countless others) in 2021. [3]

- 31 white pilots were let go / held back / paid off so that the RAF could prioritise diversity hires [4], [5].

- Police roles only open to BME candidates [6] - there are countless other examples of this, various government departments have used 'positive action' racism clauses in the same way.

You're just regurgitating what Labour talking heads are saying. You probably didn't even realise that it's legal to be racist against white people. Perhaps you should read more of the news, so you can understand what's really going on.

[0] https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/admissions-stat...

[1] https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/default/file...

[2] https://www.yahoo.com/news/oxford-cambridge-move-away-tradit...

[3] https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/203/education-com...

[4] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66060490

[5] https://news.sky.com/story/raf-recruiters-were-advised-again...

[6] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/09/west-yorkshire-p...

Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by philjohn on Thursday April 10, 2025 @03:23PM (#43647228)
On [2] you conveniently left out the key quote: "minority groups and poorer students." why are you against helping out disadantaged people whatever their stripes?

On [3] it was found to be unlawful so your assertion that "It's legal to be racist against white people" careers headlong into reality that no, it's not.

As for the west yorkshire story, do you not want the police to be representative of the area they serve? There are far more white men than there are as a proportion of the local population.

It feels like you're grasping at straws here.