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Re:Glamorous Toolkit by rondaerth92 on Monday April 07, 2025 @04:31PM (#43615654)
The GT/Pharo technology may be the best, but due diligence always reports that the real problem why neither GT nor Pharo get large sources of funding is that the community is conflictive and full of people with poor human qualities.
Re:Glamorous Toolkit by gugagore on Monday April 07, 2025 @11:50PM (#43618199)
I did spend a day or two on the discord a few years ago, and the conversation was dominated by some conflict over a refector...

What due diligence are you talking about? Personal research? (Genuine curiosity)

Re:Glamorous Toolkit by tudorgirba on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @02:55AM (#43619039)
Was this on the GT or Pharo Discord? They are not the same communities or systems :)
Re:Glamorous Toolkit by tudorgirba on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @02:53AM (#43619027)
You raise a few points.

I am not sure what you mean by "people with poor human qualities". I am particularly involved in GT and less in Pharo since many years. GT is based on Pharo, but it comes with its own environment and philosophy to support a goal that is not about Smalltalk. We do encourage you to join and see our community especially if you are interested to learn a different kind of programming with us. I am yet to find people with poor human qualities there.

As for funding, we sustain GT through the work we do at feenk where we solve hard problems in organizations that depend on software systems.

And we do not claim that GT is the best. Only that it's the first to show a different possibility to how systems can be made explainable.