Re:We asked camera companies why their RAW formats are all d...
by zahlman on Monday April 07, 2025 @07:24PM
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It's really strange to me that a lossy compressed format could be called "raw". Does that just mean that it hasn't been e.g. gamma-corrected before the compression was applied? (Is it even a good idea to do lossy compression before such correction?)
Re:We asked camera companies why their RAW formats are all d...
by 4ad on Monday April 07, 2025 @07:36PM
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All raw means is scene-referred data. The idea that somehow raw means "raw" data from the sensor is an often repeated idea, but unfortunately is completely nonsense. Modern sensors do on-chip noise reduction, they can be programmed to give data in all kind of formats and with different processing done to it. The same sensor used in different cameras can have different ISO. The same sensor used in different cameras can produce different RAW files even at the same ISO. Not just in the sense of a different file format, in the sense of different data in the file, from the exact same sensor, but programmed differently.
Re:We asked camera companies why their RAW formats are all d...
by jiggunjer on Monday April 07, 2025 @08:12PM
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Source? There are lossless and lossy transformations. In many scientific contexts raw implies no lossy transformations in terms of information.
Re:We asked camera companies why their RAW formats are all d...
by danudey on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @02:22PM
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This isn't a scientific context, it's a marketing one.
Re:We asked camera companies why their RAW formats are all d...
by zahlman on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @02:34PM
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"scene-referred data", as opposed to... something consciously edited?
Re:We asked camera companies why their RAW formats are all d...
by 4ad on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @02:54PM
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No, scene-referred vs. display-referred. These are standard terms.
https://www.color.org/scene-referred.xalter
https://ninedegreesbelow.com/photography/display-referred-sc...
[1] https://github.com/darktable-org/rawspeed/issues/366
And in my experience there has been lots of bugs with Fujifilm raws in darktable:
[2] https://github.com/darktable-org/rawspeed/issues/354
[3] https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/18073
However, Fujifilm lossless compressed raw actually does a decent job keeping the file sizes down (about 50% to 60% the file size of uncompressed) while maintaining decent write speed during burst shooting.