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Re:Open Source Is Geopolitical Now by selfhoster11 on Monday April 07, 2025 @02:11PM (#43614274)
Except that Llama 4's license restricts you from using its multimodal features in the European union, and the Llama 3 license restricted using the model output to augment the training of other models (distillation). Both are important use cases. It very much isn't an academic exercise. It has a real impact on what you can (legally) do with a model.

With a model licensed using MIT, you know what you are getting. You know you can modify it. You know you can use it for any purpose whatsoever, including ones the corporation that built it dislikes. Using the MIT license is "no ace up my sleeve" licensing - there are no gotchas that will come and bite you later.

Re:Open Source Is Geopolitical Now by diggan on Monday April 07, 2025 @03:03PM (#43614741)
> Except that Llama 4's license restricts you from using its multimodal features in the European union

The EU restrictions were added in 3.2's Use Policy, while 3.1 License introduced the restrictions on using model output for training other models. I've collated the changes here: https://notes.victor.earth/how-llamas-licenses-have-evolved-...

Besides that, I agree with what you're saying.

Re:Open Source Is Geopolitical Now by selfhoster11 on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @04:00AM (#43619389)
I appreciate the correction. I've not been paying much attention to Llama licensing after the first Llama 3 models came out.
Re:Open Source Is Geopolitical Now by pabs3 on Monday April 07, 2025 @11:41PM (#43618164)
Model output isn't copyrightable, and I would be surprised if them models themselves were copyrightable too, which means the licenses are meaningless.