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Re:Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March by hartator on Monday April 07, 2025 @09:27AM (#43611164)
> Nobody will throw you in jail in indefinite detention in another country with no human rights because of your skin colour, beard, tattoos or anything of the like.

Most EU country police don’t need probable cause to detain you. It does happen to be detained for no reason outside of profiling. For example, in France, you can be sent to jail for up to 24h with no probable cause.

Re:Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March by netsharc on Monday April 07, 2025 @09:36AM (#43611276)
The difference between EU and USA is: "can" vs "is happening".

And as you describe in the EU it's "up to 24 hours". And in the lawless authoritarian regime? That Canadian girl was detained for 11 days and was told to prepare to be held for months: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/jasmine-moon...

A friend's family flew into a EU country with a letter, they thought this letter was their visa but it turned out to be a rejection from the EU country's consulate (maybe it was a request for more information for their visa application). They were denied entry, but there was no indefinite detention, they were just told to get on the next plane out of the country and had to wait in the "international area" of the airport until said flight.

Re:Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March by plumarr on Monday April 07, 2025 @09:48AM (#43611419)
> For example, in France, you can be sent to jail for up to 24h with no probable cause.

There must be a probable cause : https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F14837

Re:Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March by FrinkleFrankle on Monday April 07, 2025 @02:34PM (#43614504)
Also, a 24 hour detainment in reasonable conditions is very different from an indefinite detention with a possibility of torture (solitary confinement) or being sent off to an El Savadorian prison with no hope of being returned.
Re:Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March by hartator on Monday April 07, 2025 @03:41PM (#43615107)
This is different.

In the US you need probable cause to get pull over or temporary detain you. In France, you don't need probably cause for temporary detaining you, but if they suspect you of something they can also send you to jail. You can't be sent to jail in the US just on them just suspecting something.

Re:Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March by sofixa on Monday April 07, 2025 @04:02PM (#43615333)
> You can't be sent to jail in the US just on them just suspecting something.

All the people sitting in an Salvadorian prison for having a shitty tatoo would strongly disagree.