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Re:The Llama 4 herd by senderista on Saturday April 05, 2025 @03:32PM (#43596193)
I admit that I cannot even imagine the state of mind in which one could attribute parochial, contingent political preferences to the UNIVERSE.
Re:The Llama 4 herd by wrs on Saturday April 05, 2025 @03:48PM (#43596300)
Let me explain the joke for you: liberals are less likely to believe that verifiable facts and theories are merely contingent political preferences.
Re:The Llama 4 herd by senderista on Saturday April 05, 2025 @04:01PM (#43596376)
I see leftists denying inconvenient facts just as much as rightists. It's just the inevitable product of a tribal mentality, the tribe doesn't matter.
Re:The Llama 4 herd by zimza on Saturday April 05, 2025 @04:17PM (#43596492)
Ah yes, the good old enlightened centrist
Re:The Llama 4 herd by j_maffe on Saturday April 05, 2025 @04:35PM (#43596620)
Way to go dismissing ideologies as mere tribalism. I'm sure that's a great way to just shut off your brain.
Re:The Llama 4 herd by Cyphase on Saturday April 05, 2025 @05:15PM (#43596869)
https://www.paulgraham.com/mod.html

> There are two distinct ways to be politically moderate: on purpose and by accident. Intentional moderates are trimmers, deliberately choosing a position mid-way between the extremes of right and left. Accidental moderates end up in the middle, on average, because they make up their own minds about each question, and the far right and far left are roughly equally wrong.

Re:The Llama 4 herd by theGnuMe on Saturday April 05, 2025 @05:40PM (#43597027)
I never liked this answer. Moderates could just be wrong.
Re:The Llama 4 herd by senderista on Saturday April 05, 2025 @05:54PM (#43597113)
"Intentional moderate" is certainly just another tribe. Aiming squarely for the middle of the Overton window du jour is sort of a politician's job, but it shouldn't be emulated by others.
Re:The Llama 4 herd by wrs on Saturday April 05, 2025 @06:41PM (#43597404)
The joke is not about who denies facts, it’s about the absurdity of calling someone “biased” when they take the side of an argument that is better supported by reality, and about who tends to do that more often.
Re:The Llama 4 herd by KingMob on Sunday April 06, 2025 @03:21AM (#43599558)
Which facts? Please be specific.
Re:The Llama 4 herd by kbelder on Monday April 07, 2025 @08:12PM (#43617193)
Ask a liberal about capitalism.

Both sides just pick and trumpet the hard truths that they like.

Re:The Llama 4 herd by krapp on Saturday April 05, 2025 @03:45PM (#43596275)
It's a joke made by Steven Colbert at the 2006 White House correspondents' dinner which referenced the Bush Administration's low poll numbers and the tendency of that administration to attribute bad press to "liberal media bias." This is also the administration that brought us the use of the term "reality based community" as an anti-leftist pejorative.

It is not meant to be literally interpreted as attributing contingent political preferences to the universe, but rather to be a (politically biased) statement on the tendency of conservatives to categorically deny reality and reframe it as leftist propaganda whenever it contradicts their narrative. One can extend this "bias" to include the rejection of mainstream scientific and historical narratives as "woke" by the right in a more modern context.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert_at_the_2006_Wh...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community