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Re:GNOME Workstation OS by rrmm on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @01:25PM (#4356778)
Yes, the Linux world should stop obsessing about mobile and tablets, since they've basically already lost that battle.

Android is doing ok I think. Or do you just mean linux with a gnu/unix userland?

Re:GNOME Workstation OS by josteink on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @01:28PM (#4356790)
I think the fact that Android is largerly ignored when people consider the (lacking) success of Linux on mobile speaks enormeously of its success.

Android is just too good to be Linux. That sort of reasoning.

Re:GNOME Workstation OS by gue5t on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @01:53PM (#4356942)
Android is too bad to be Linux. It's a platform dominated by closed-source application software, a cathedral-developed kernel and core, and dubiously open bootloaders. It's utterly useless for development, and it makes numerous sacrifices on many levels to try to appeal to 'regular users'. When one pines for Linux success, one means GNU/Linux [and whatever DE or graphical environment you like]. Nobody cares what kernel your phone runs.
Re:GNOME Workstation OS by josteink on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @02:08PM (#4357044)
All fair points, but it depends on how you determine success. If you measure Linux-based OS'es penetration in the mobile market today, you will find that it 's the biggest player. That's success.

Yes, you have problems with locked bootloaders and closed hardware on some phones, American carrier-phones in particular. This is bad, but no fault of Android.

That most software on Android, a Linux-distro, may be closed source may sadden a FOSS proponent, but it still doesn't mean it's not Linux.

On my Android tablet I can fire up a terminal, hook up a keyboard via USB and then hack away in a Linux userland, using either supplied binaries, or busybox, or other Linux binaries compiled for the ARM architecture. And it will all work.

For lots of tasks where in the past I would need a PC, I no longer do. Because my Linux-based, mobile platform has me covered. If I want to build my own stuff, I can actually use the normal Linux toolchain to do so. I can do all that because Android, either you appreciate it or not, is Linux. There is no debating that.

And right now Android is dominating the mobile space. I think it's fair to say that Linux, in a form you appreciate or not, has succeeded where your traditional DE based Linux-environment has not.

Re:GNOME Workstation OS by jiggy2011 on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @03:12PM (#4357456)
The android platform is open source, http://source.android.com/.

There's a lot of closed source software for Android and many phones are sold with locked bootloaders.But it's possible to buy those without and google don't care if you root your phone.

So unless your definition is a system 100% open source software that is of no interest to "regular users" (not even Ubuntu qualifies) then this is unrealistic unless you are Richard Stallman.

Re:GNOME Workstation OS by donniezazen on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @02:24PM (#4357160)
World has changed a lot from the Cathedral and the Bazaar era. Linux will succeed with help of Cathedral and not without.