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Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by bigiain on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @02:24AM (#4354237)
"I would assume that a majority of that revenue is through a card."

Really? I almost never use a card for café type purchases. Maybe if I were buying a meal, but for a coffee or two I'm 99% likely to use cash.

(Note: mine is an Australia-centric view, perhaps things really are very different in the USA?)

Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by jcdavis on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @02:29AM (#4354251)
Yes. The vast majority of payments I see in Starbucks in the US are via credit cards (or debit cards). With modern PoS systems, paying via card is faster and more convenient than cash, not to mention other benefits (rewards on cards, being able to better track spending)
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by jimmytucson on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @04:01AM (#4354449)
I used to work at Starbucks (albeit going on 5 years ago) and although I don't have the exact statistics or a perfect memory, it was not a "vast majority". If I had to guess, I'd say probably something like 2/3. Maybe the ratio increases if you count Starbucks gift cards.

Either way you look at it, Square's transaction volume surges with this deal. Good on both parties.

Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by zevyoura on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @05:11PM (#4358107)
2/3 is kind of a vast majority; it means twice as many people are paying with cards than not.
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by stonemetal on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @07:32AM (#4354986)
My wife actually thinks it is rude to pay with cash or check when people are waiting behind you in line. Cards are the fastest way to pay, you don't even have to sign for purchases under a certain amount.
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by seabee on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @07:34AM (#4354995)
You don't enter a PIN? That process easily makes it take longer than cash.
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by dmd on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @09:00AM (#4355264)
No PINs for credit cards in the US.
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by jim_kaiser on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @12:38PM (#4356524)
We don't need to enter the PIN for most of the credit cards or debit cards in India, but we do have to sign it. Although it's just a formality. Usually when we split the bill, one of us signs all the receipts. :)

Now that being said, we get an SMS on every transaction, and for online transfers, we have two factor authentication using the mobile phone. We can call the bank any time to report a stolen card and would be covered for a fair amount of money depending on the account, as long as you report it within 24 hours as I remember.

Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by teamonkey on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @09:37AM (#4355450)
Not for coffee-sized amounts at major coffee chains, no.
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by stonemetal on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @11:44AM (#4356164)
Debit cards require a pin, but credit card transactions less than some amount(I think it is $10) don't require anything other than the swipe.
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by mcdavis on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @12:47PM (#4356569)
Many debit cards can be processed as credit cards and then don't require a pin. My bank actually encourages using the debit card as a credit card by offering more points per purchase when you do it.
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by clamps123 on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @08:31AM (#4355167)
What? Perhaps if you have down syndrome, but otherwise takes around 5 seconds. Swipe card, enter 4 digit pin, press enter. Faster than it would take the cashier to type in the amount you just gave him, much less make change.
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by untog on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @09:32AM (#4355418)
Down Syndrome? Really?

In any case, plenty of people do struggle with it- the old especially. But that's not the biggest factor. With a swipe everything is done by one person- the cashier. PIN entry requires a back and forth between customer and cashier, and I've seen plenty of cashiers not notice that the PIN entry has gone through, etc.

Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by robryan on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @04:33AM (#4354530)
To add to this, often cafes enforce a minimum transaction size, such as $10, to use card. This means usually you only use card it you are grabbing lunch as well.
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by Simucal on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @09:05AM (#4355278)
I've read before[0] that it is actually a violation of a stores terms with Visa to enforce minimum transaction sizes. Those stores could potentially be reported to Visa and have sanctions placed on them (like an increased transaction rate). Interestingly, a merchant is allowed to offer a discount to people who pay by cash but they can't charge more for people paying by credit card.

[0] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11697094/ns/business-consumer_ne...

Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by ben1040 on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @09:15AM (#4355315)
After the credit card reform act went through in 2010, the card companies now allow for a $10 minimum.

http://consumerist.com/2010/09/amex-visa-mastercard-all-give...

Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by robryan on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @11:13PM (#4359346)
Yeah it is annoying really. Especially for anywhere where it is common to buy things under $10. I think in the end most businesses would be better off just taking the fee hit as they would likely see increased business.
Re:Jack Dorsey: Today Starbucks Signed up for Square by georgespencer on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @05:23AM (#4354661)
Starbucks don't.