Marine Le Pen banned from running in 2027 and given four-year sentence

Re:Marine Le Pen banned from running in 2027 and given four-... by crazygringo on Monday March 31, 2025 @04:47PM (#43539797)

I'm using modern terminology. There's no relevant distinction here:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/democracy-and-republ...

The fundamental democratic principle is the same.

And we measure the will of the people in elections, without having to worry about Arrow... it's procedural.

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Re:Marine Le Pen banned from running in 2027 and given four-... by aredox on Monday March 31, 2025 @05:12PM (#43540031)

Arrow is not at all "procedural", the French know it well: the 1995 presidential election ended with a Chirac vs Le Pen (the patriarch) duel, even though Lionel Jospin was the favorite and would have beaten both if he had faced them off... A clear example of non-transitivity in elections.

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Re:Marine Le Pen banned from running in 2027 and given four-... by crazygringo on Monday March 31, 2025 @06:42PM (#43540752)

That's my point, sorry if it wasn't clear. Non-transitivity is resolved procedurally. We can theorize about Arrow all we want; in the meantime we can write rules that actually do produce electoral results.

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Re:Marine Le Pen banned from running in 2027 and given four-... by aredox on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @03:05AM (#43543699)

My point is that it wasn't resolved: Jospin was the favorite, but the French were forced to choose between two candidates the majority of them loathed. The rules were a failure.

(2002 election, not 1995 - my bad)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_French_presidential_elect...

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Re:Marine Le Pen banned from running in 2027 and given four-... by aredox on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @03:00AM (#43543674)

Sorry, 2002 election.

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