Re:China, Japan, South Korea will jointly respond to US tariffs
by fspeech on Monday March 31, 2025 @05:38PM
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Why is it a bad thing if they now like each other better (not sure if there is real evidence for it but assume it is true for argument's sake)? If American policy is what keeps them apart, which I strongly doubt, then it is a good thing that we butt out and let them integrate as much as they want.
Re:China, Japan, South Korea will jointly respond to US tariffs
by nabla9 on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @04:46AM
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Just because they turn against the US on trade does not mean they are becoming friends. American policy is not what keeps them in part.
In short term they cooperate on tariffs, because America has gone crazy.
On the long term. South Korea and Japan will seek their to ensure their security against China without the US. South Korea is already discussing domestic nuclear weapons. Japan could go nuclear at any time when it wants.
Re:China, Japan, South Korea will jointly respond to US tariffs
by rsynnott on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @05:50AM
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It is not in the abstract a bad thing, and things like this are fairly inevitable under the circumstances. It's probably not a great thing for the US's foreign policy, and particularly trade policy (if you can call the current random flailing a policy) if the cause of it is treating the US as a common adversary, however.
Re:China, Japan, South Korea will jointly respond to US tariffs
by tophi on Monday March 31, 2025 @03:58PM
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Yes, and if we continue down this path China will be the biggest winner. If we align with Russia, then Europe and southeast asia will have no other choice. Africa will also be easy pickens for China.
The best case scenario for USA is we are able to hold on to secure elections, Democrats move towards something like Ezra Kleins’ vision and MAGA collapses and a more values based party takes their place.
Re:China, Japan, South Korea will jointly respond to US tariffs
by belter on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @11:12AM
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The combined value of trade between the U.S. and these three it's 1 Trillion dollars...No way this ends up well....It will be an Economic January 6th ... :-)
The 3 countries historically never like each other and this orange man single-handedly reunited them with a common cause!
In short term they cooperate on tariffs, because America has gone crazy.
On the long term. South Korea and Japan will seek their to ensure their security against China without the US. South Korea is already discussing domestic nuclear weapons. Japan could go nuclear at any time when it wants.
On some level, Trump clearly understands that this sort of cooperation would be a problem for him (https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-threatens-eu-and-canad...), but I'm not sure if he understands that it is _inevitable_.
> If American policy is what keeps them apart, which I strongly doubt
No, it's not that. Current US policy is _driving them together_, however.
The best case scenario for USA is we are able to hold on to secure elections, Democrats move towards something like Ezra Kleins’ vision and MAGA collapses and a more values based party takes their place.
I'm not saying that this isn't a possible economic alliance, but it's an unlikely one, and the evidence provided for it isn't really up to the task.
US government is doing series of unforced errors that will change the world forever. It's only three months into the Trump's term.
This is going to be a wild ride.