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Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by nashashmi on Monday March 31, 2025 @08:22AM (#43534147)
“The universe is an orb and that orb is rotating causing all the other stuff to spiral.” This was a long held theory of mine because I could not understand why a galaxy would spiral.

I think there is a men in black scene, where an alien is rotating the universe globe like a toy they are playing.

Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by rdtsc on Monday March 31, 2025 @09:54AM (#43535097)
> This was a long held theory of mine because I could not understand why a galaxy would spiral.

I think in general it would be unusual if they didn’t rotate. Any large non-uniform mass of gas or rocks when colliding will induce some rotation. What is odd though is that for galaxies we see more of them spinning one way than another.

Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by eightysixfour on Monday March 31, 2025 @11:16AM (#43536000)
Doesn’t it have to spiral? Think of the gravity well, anything not orbiting is just falling. The only things not racing towards the black hole at the center of the galaxy are the ones that are orbiting.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by nashashmi on Monday March 31, 2025 @11:58AM (#43536470)
It can be directly sucked into the center. A spiral implies a lateral movement plus a centripetal force
Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by eightysixfour on Monday March 31, 2025 @01:59PM (#43537822)
Right, I guess what I am saying is if it didn't spiral, it wouldn't be a galaxy for "long." It would just be a super massive black hole.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by lolc on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @09:15AM (#43546436)
The trick to having a galaxy is for mass to fall towards the black hole and miss it all the time.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by soulofmischief on Monday March 31, 2025 @01:43PM (#43537656)
Ok but what is making the universe spin? This kind of theory is turtles all the way down.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by irrational on Monday March 31, 2025 @04:32PM (#43539605)
Is this getting into questions like "Where did the singularity come from?" and "What came before the singularity?". We don't have a way to answer these kinds of questions.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by soulofmischief on Monday March 31, 2025 @07:24PM (#43541105)
My point is that it's not much helpful to say, "galaxies spin a certain way because the universe spins", because it shifts the problem without actually answering the "why". "Turtles all the way down" is a saying about such infinite regress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down

And yes, I'm familiar with Dawkins' famous retort when someone asked how magnets repel things.

Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @04:05AM (#43544054)
> And yes, I'm familiar with Dawkins' famous retort when someone asked how magnets repel things.

I'm not. I was unable to substantiate that anyone named Dawkins, Richard or otherwise, made or is popularly associated with a comment about magnets. What was the retort?

Re:James Webb Space Telescope Reveals That Most Galaxies Rot... by soulofmischief on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @06:07AM (#43544953)
I deeply apologize, it was late and I mixed up my Richards. :)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=36GT2zI8lVA