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Re:Wikipedia Redefined by vacri on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @08:37PM (#4353225)
It's hilarious from the start - first thing they do is throw out the logo that incorporates multiple languages and says 'fuck you, we're going English for Wiki'. They compound this by then making all the various logos English-derived, so these guys have basically shouted to the world that they don't grasp the basics of their client.

They even propose a feature that shows everyone how much English dominates the other languages in other languages, being the colour bar. And if you want something not in English, you have to find the nigh-undiscoverable 'roll over top right corner' to have the language selecter appear. They're pushing really hard to make non-English users feel like second-class citizens.

Then they redesign the page to make content harder to get to by putting a giant damn banner at the top of every page. Literally a third of the page is the banner. It's a wonder they didn't suggest putting some 'subtle' advertising in or something.

This redesign literally made be laugh out loud several times. My main regret is that I don't have a marketing budget, because then I could ensure these jokers would never get any of it.

Re:Wikipedia Redefined by kellishaver on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @01:00AM (#4354000)
They lost me at "Jmagine" ....
Re:Wikipedia Redefined by Torn on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @04:32AM (#4354527)
Ugh thanks for pointing that out -- I read the whole article and was assuming 'Jts' was some technology I'd not heard of yet.
Re:Wikipedia Redefined by chris_wot on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @05:31AM (#4354679)
Not just that - they redefine the word "history", which is a core component of the site for article revisions. And they changed where the contents are placed (do you know how many holy wars this started?!?!), they wipe to the community chosen logos, they change the templating system of the English main page (with one that is poorly laid out - check out the featured picture of the day section!), they associate number of articles with popularity...

Not sure how well they thought this out. They seem o have taken their own design brief, bu not consulted with Wikipedians!

Best this could be would be an iPad app. Not for the main site(s).

Re:Wikipedia Redefined by apgwoz on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @06:54AM (#4354891)
> Not just that - they redefine the word "history"

Despite the historical use of "history" on WikiPedia, I'd rather it be called "Revisions." Revisions is much clearer as a concept.

> Not sure how well they thought this out. They seem o have taken their own design brief, bu not consulted with Wikipedians!

I'm not a Wikipedian (I assume that's what contributors refer to themselves as?), but I'd welcome some more personalization into the site. It'd be wonderful for me to be able to easily see the pages I've viewed, and be able to highlight and keep track of things in much the same way that I could in a real set of encyclopedias. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be within WikiPedia itself--at least not for me, but I'm sure the masses would like the same sort of features, and they'd be more willing to just create an account on WikiPedia than to install some third party app/plugin/etc.

Re:Wikipedia Redefined by Evbn on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @12:45PM (#4356553)
"Revision" is also a more honest admittance that edits are often revisionist history.
Re:Wikipedia Redefined by chris_wot on Friday August 10, 2012 @09:03AM (#4365937)
Oh hardly!
Re:Wikipedia Redefined by hollerith on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @04:01AM (#4354446)
What offended me the most is their suggestion that the Wikimedia Foundation appropriate the name "wiki". Either they lack awareness that the wiki is a separate invention from Wikipedia or they do not mind language and usage evolving in such a way as to make it hard to explain the history of the development of the technologies and nearly impossible for the inventor of the wiki to get the recognition he deserves.
Re:Wikipedia Redefined by suhastech on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @06:49AM (#4354882)
Extend the same argument. They probably said 'fuck you, we're going English for Wikipedia' instead of Enzyklopädie or whatever like every other recognizable brand worldwide.

Let's face it, English is the universal language.

Re:Wikipedia Redefined by vacri on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @10:03PM (#4359153)
English is indeed spoken by over a billion people, however it's not spoken by the other six billion.