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Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by usecodenaija on Monday March 31, 2025 @01:49AM (#43531535)
Standardizing agentic AI prematurely could stifle innovation and diverse approaches.

Unlike networking protocols, AI agency may benefit more from competing frameworks that explore different philosophical and technical foundations before converging on standards.

Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by Klaster_1 on Monday March 31, 2025 @02:38AM (#43531860)
Makes sense. Current networking standards ultimately emerge from ARPA, a single actor - this was a single vendor solution being adopted. AI agent field has many more actors, the situation resembles browser wars or even something more loose common-approach-wise.
Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by noosphr on Monday March 31, 2025 @02:42AM (#43531889)
This is easily solvable by using _plain English_ as the interop layer. We have more or less solved natural language input with open source llms that are about as capable as llama3-70b. Searching the docs of the next tool to be called is all you need to get an invocation that does what an agent needs to do.
Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by spwa4 on Monday March 31, 2025 @03:21AM (#43532125)
The problem is reversed. For companies trying, it's in their interest to wall off all their customers' info (and totally block all agents except, perhaps, their own). Agents are a nightmare "for personal information". Not really of course, or they are, but no-one cares. For companies they're just a really easy way to download your competitor's customer list, or having yours downloaded by your competitor.

Just like we have anti-scraping now, it seems to me to be in the vast majority of companies' interests to block agents from working. The big innovation of AI for companies and ad companies is simply that it may bypass companies security measures in a legal way.

Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by jameslk on Monday March 31, 2025 @02:52AM (#43531964)
The predecessors of agentic AI, humans, have figured this out. They use this thing called user interfaces to do computing. If agentic AI can't use UIs like humans, why bother calling them agents?

I feel like there is momentum around this idea that all of computing needs to be re-invented (e.g. MCP, "agentic AI needs its TCP/IP moment") to address the deficiencies of agentic AI when what really should be addressed is their inability to be true agents for humans, using the tools humans already use.

Using UIs doesn't even have to be visual. Visually impaired users regularly use computers as well. Since UI for the visually impaired is all text based, it seems reasonable for LLMs to start there.

Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by aurareturn on Monday March 31, 2025 @02:37AM (#43531841)
Disagreed. I think LLMs will simply get smart enough to figure out how to call into another API/agent.
Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by lgas on Monday March 31, 2025 @02:55AM (#43531980)
There are many examples of this out in the wild already working, eg. https://github.com/openai/swarm
Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by raffraffraff on Monday March 31, 2025 @03:04AM (#43532035)
TCP/IP v4 or v6? Because depending on the version, that sentence probably means different things
Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by paul7986 on Monday March 31, 2025 @03:00AM (#43532011)
Im excited for when Open AI or another AI company releases their own AI phone (GPT Phone maybe). Seen on your lock screen is a faceTime call with your AI Assistant / Agent that interfaces with all other Agents (businesses, orgs, family members, friends, etc) to auto-magically get things done for you via text, chat, hand / facial gestures, etc. Basically its a super powered human at your beckon call on your lock screen.

It can even take the best selfies for you ... gets you to the best lighting (sorry Zuckerberg smart glasses are not the next best thing you cant take selfies with them, but i do love my Meta Ray Bans).

Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by Nullabillity on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @12:30AM (#43542861)
Let me tell you the twin tales of Rabbit and Humane…
Re:Agentic AI Needs Its TCP/IP Moment by paul7986 on Tuesday April 01, 2025 @04:19PM (#43550905)
Neither are or were the Google or Apple of AI as chatGPT is. Just my guess that if chatGPT released their own phone (Microsoft could help with the hardware) that was like H.E.R. (the movie) my bet is it would become the next big thing.