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Re:Why a plane turned around when a passenger lost a phone m... by mschuster91 on Sunday March 30, 2025 @02:42PM (#43526449)
> Why would you not say "we are returning due to a battery fire. The fire has been contained but we must return because X y z" or whatever.

Because as soon as you mention "fire" you'll get a bunch of dumb fucks panicking themselves so hard they're going to behave completely irrationally (like attempting to rip open the emergency doors which IS possible at low enough altitudes) - or manage to induce legitimate medical problems. Heart attack for the older folks, dyspnea up to actually going unconscious from hyperventilation for the younger folks.

Re:Why a plane turned around when a passenger lost a phone m... by IshKebab on Sunday March 30, 2025 @03:35PM (#43526867)
Ugh yeah that's why you tell them it's been put out.
Re:Why a plane turned around when a passenger lost a phone m... by sowbug on Sunday March 30, 2025 @06:27PM (#43528341)
"Wait, did they just say batteries can start fires?"
Re:Why a plane turned around when a passenger lost a phone m... by mschuster91 on Sunday March 30, 2025 @06:42PM (#43528461)
Bold of you to assume they'll continue to listen after the keyword "fire". In the worst case, they'll actively doubt you and, worse, start doing so in a very public way ("they're just claiming the fire is out").

And yes this shit has happened in the past. Panicked people are uncontrollable and in a critical situation, priority #1 is to avoid panic to rise at all costs because panicked people can turn a critical situation into outright disaster.

Re:Why a plane turned around when a passenger lost a phone m... by perihelions on Sunday March 30, 2025 @05:30PM (#43527847)
- "panicking themselves so hard they're going to behave completely irrationally (like attempting to rip open the emergency doors which IS possible at low enough altitudes)"

The Denver airport fire this month was an object lesson. A panicking mob apparently ignored instructions and went out the wrong emergency exit door, onto the airplane wing, where they stood over the flaming jet-fuel smoke with no way down.

(The other doors had slides).

Re:Why a plane turned around when a passenger lost a phone m... by LorenPechtel on Monday March 31, 2025 @08:27PM (#43541549)
Yeah. Right there on the safety card--note whether there's fire outside an exit before using it.
Re:Why a plane turned around when a passenger lost a phone m... by _carbyau_ on Sunday March 30, 2025 @09:22PM (#43529678)
Yeah, I can like individuals, but not crowds.

Crowds can do dumb shit in a self reinforcing loop.