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Re:Trump's attacks on universities get darker, with shadows ... by bko on Saturday March 29, 2025 @09:14AM (#43515276)
I agree, and if this were citizens I'd be on your side. But I think there's different standards for guests. When I'm visiting a country I'm very careful to obey the norms and laws of the host country. I would not expect the same affordances given to their permanent residents. Imagine going to China and joining some protest against Foxcon. It would be insane. I just don't like people taking advantage of the permissive immigration system in the US that me and so many others have benefited from. Allowing this will hurt immigration in the long run.
Re:Trump's attacks on universities get darker, with shadows ... by cogman10 on Saturday March 29, 2025 @09:22AM (#43515330)
> if this were citizens I'd be on your side.

How do you know they aren't?

There was no trial to determine that these people even have visas, it's just the accusations of the administration.

The admin is additionally working hard to try and shield who they are deporting.

Re:Trump's attacks on universities get darker, with shadows ... by Paradigma11 on Saturday March 29, 2025 @12:19PM (#43516619)
So, foreign journalists should better be careful what they write or say?

Can foreign spouses of US activists be deported for being associated with them?

But yes, the current US administration is drifting into the same category as China or Russia.

Re:Trump's attacks on universities get darker, with shadows ... by ethbr1 on Saturday March 29, 2025 @12:20PM (#43516621)
Thankfully, the writers of the 5th and 14th Amendments foresaw this and specifically chose to use "any person" instead of any citizen. [0] [1]

Ergo, all peoples within the United States are entitled to their due process.

This administration is welcome to push for a constitutional amendment to strip due process rights from non-citizens, if they'd like to change the law.

[0] https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-8... [1] https://www.finduslaw.com/us-constitution-5th-14th-amendment...

> I just don't like people taking advantage of the permissive immigration system in the US that me and so many others have benefited from.

That every American without native American heritage has.

Re:Trump's attacks on universities get darker, with shadows ... by xboxnolifes on Saturday March 29, 2025 @12:51PM (#43516834)
If you skip over the trial (or other checks) portion, you can't be sure they aren't citizens. That's part of the point. That why you extend rights to everyone, so a political party can't use the excuse of "oh, it's ok, they weren't citizens".

Otherwise, it's it's a group of people collecting un-named people, deporting them, and them saying "trust us, we got it right".