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Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by zozbot234 on Thursday March 27, 2025 @08:38PM (#43499985)
> I mean, I can ask for obscure things with subtle nuance where I misspell words and mess up my question and it figures it out.

If you're lucky it figures it out. If you aren't, it makes stuff up in a way that seems almost purposefully calculated to fool you into assuming that it's figured everything out. That's the real problem with LLM's: they fundamentally cannot be trusted because they're just a glorified autocomplete; they don't come with any inbuilt sense of when they might be getting things wrong.

Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by sothatsit on Thursday March 27, 2025 @08:42PM (#43500022)
I see this complaint a lot, and frankly, it just doesn't matter.

What matters is speeding up how fast I can find information. Not only will LLMs sometimes answer my obscure questions perfectly themselves, but they also help to point me to the jargon I need to use to find that information online. In many areas this has been hugely valuble to me.

Sometimes you do just have to cut your losses. I've given up on asking LLMs for help with Zig, for example. It is just too obscure a language I guess, because the hallucination rate is too high to be useful. But for webdev, Python, matplotlib, or bash help? It is invaluable to me, even though it makes mistakes every now and then.

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Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by sothatsit on Thursday March 27, 2025 @08:58PM (#43500164)
We're talking about getting work done here, not some purity dance about how you find your information the "right way" by looking in books in libraries or something. Or wait, do you use the internet? How very impure of you. You should know, people post misinformation on there!
Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by CamperBob2 on Thursday March 27, 2025 @08:53PM (#43500117)
they don't come with any inbuilt sense of when they might be getting things wrong

Spend some time with current reasoning models. Your experience is obsolete if you still hold this belief.

Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by matkoniecz on Friday March 28, 2025 @06:07AM (#43503494)
Can you be more specific than "current reasoning models"? Maybe I missed it, but I have not yet seen any that would not hallucinate wildly.
Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by CamperBob2 on Friday March 28, 2025 @11:33AM (#43506718)
Let's try it this way: give me one or two prompts that you personally have had trouble with, in terms of hallucinated output and lack of awareness of potential errors or ambiguity. I have paid accounts on all the major models except Grok, and I often find it interesting to probe the boundaries where good responses give way to bad ones, and to see how they get better (or worse) between generations.

Sounds like your experiences, along with zozbot234's, are different enough from mine that they are worth repeating and understanding. I'll report back with the results I see on the current models.

Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by intrasight on Thursday March 27, 2025 @08:58PM (#43500165)
Humans also get things wrong surprisingly large percentage of the time.
Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by amrocha on Thursday March 27, 2025 @09:12PM (#43500271)
Yeah but if your accountant bullshits when doing your taxes, you can sue them.
Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by Nevermark on Thursday March 27, 2025 @09:34PM (#43500437)
> Yeah but if your accountant bullshits when doing your taxes, you can sue them.

What is the point of limiting delegation to such an extreme dichotomy? As apposed to getting more things done?

The vast majority of useful things we delegate, or do for others ourselves, are not as well specified, or as legally liable for any imperfections, as an accountant doing accounting.

Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by amrocha on Saturday March 29, 2025 @05:43AM (#43514119)
Because we’ve already automated everything else. What’s left is work that’s done by specialists.

The entire pitch behind AI is that it can automate these jobs. If you can’t trust it, then AI is useless. Excluding art theft obviously.

Re:I genuinely don't understand why some people are still bu... by throw7373838 on Thursday March 27, 2025 @10:03PM (#43500640)
Good luck with that. People get send to prison for decades, for other people's bullshit all the time!

I will take LLM over real person anytime! At least it does not get b*hurt when I double check!