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Re:Blender releases their Oscar winning version tool by DonHopkins on Thursday March 27, 2025 @04:58AM (#43491589)
One example is that Blender embraced the use of pie menus, and Gimp ignored them. The Gimp team is just not open to outside ideas, and gets really annoyed when users of other tools request features from those tools that Gimp refuses to support, and reacts by digging in deeper and clinging to their bad design decisions out of frustration and spite. A really sad culture of NIH and 4Q2.

In general and with many other things, Gimp could have been so much better and easier to use, but they systematically and spitefully ignored their user's needs and requests about so many things, while Blender did just the opposite, listened to users and improve the user interface and mouse bindings, instead of being stubborn and parochial about it.

Ton is heroically tasteful but not unsung: the community rightfully adores him! (But not Autodesk.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJwG-qt-sgk

Master Blender Pie Menus for Faster Workflow!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1fwxQi50FY

Enable Pie Menus in Blender 2.9 - Blender Tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-7Hmpt9UmA

Create your own Pie Menu in Blender | Pie Menus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41fXtvzJ3Ik

Blender - Pie Menu Editor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4DoESgzAfI

Extending Blender Pie Menus with Custom Operators using Python

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8w-tswp0JI

Re:Blender releases their Oscar winning version tool by somat on Thursday March 27, 2025 @07:58AM (#43492671)
"Blender embraced the use of pie menus, and Gimp ignored them"

Instinctive recoil "cue xkcd https://xkcd.com/386/ somebody is wrong on the internet"

I had to take a little walk and think about it, What is a pie menu?

My instinctive first take was, as far as I know gimp has had pie menu since day one, at least as long as I have been using it since the late 90's 1.something. Need a menu item, right click, there is your menu. is this not topologically the same as a pie menu? Does a pie menu have to be radial? is radial any better than a list, I know I prefer a list, it does not look as cool but is much easier to read.

Re:Blender releases their Oscar winning version tool by DonHopkins on Thursday March 27, 2025 @09:37AM (#43493510)
Of course, I've thought a lot about what a pie menu is.

An Empirical Comparison of Pie vs. Linear Menus, Presented at ACM CHI’88 Conference, Washington DC, 1988 (proves that they're significantly better than linear menus and explains why):

https://donhopkins.medium.com/an-empirical-comparison-of-pie...

Pie Menus: A 30 Year Retrospective. By Don Hopkins, Ground Up Software, May 15, 2018:

https://donhopkins.medium.com/pie-menus-936fed383ff1

What kind of pie menus does Gimp have, and for how long?

Or do you just mean "erzatz pie menus" as defined here (there's also a lot of stuff about software patents, FUD, AutoDesk, Alias, 3D Studio Max, and Blender there):

https://donhopkins.medium.com/pie-menu-fud-and-misconception...

>Ersatz Pie Menus

>Richard Stallman likes to classify an Emacs-like text editor that totally misses the point of Emacs by not having an extension language as an “Ersatz Emacs”.

>In the same sense, there are many “Ersatz Pie Menus” that may look like pie menus on the surface, but don’t actually track or feel like pie menus, or benefit from all of their advantages, because they aren’t carefully designed and implemented to optimize for Fitts’s Law by being based purely on the direction between stroke endpoints instead of the entire path, minimizing the distance to the targets, and maximizing the size of the targets. [...]

How do Gimp's pie menus compare with Blender's pie menus and pie menu editor that I linked to a demo of above, or Simon Schneegans's pie menus in Gnome Pie and Fly-Pie and Kandu? You'd think it would be easy for GIMP to adopt Simon's GTK open source pie menu work, which has been around for decades.

Gnome-Pie: Homepage of Gnome-Pie, the slick application launcher for Linux.

https://schneegans.github.io/gnome-pie

Introducing: Fly-Pie!

https://schneegans.github.io/news/2020/08/13/flypie

Show HN: Kando – A cross-platform pie menu for your desktop (kando.menu)

https://kando.menu/

HN Discussion:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42525290

Re:Blender releases their Oscar winning version tool by oasisaimlessly on Thursday March 27, 2025 @05:33AM (#43491763)
What is 4Q2?
Re:Blender releases their Oscar winning version tool by DonHopkins on Thursday March 27, 2025 @09:44AM (#43493597)
UR2Q2BSTR8! ;)