You can even have very broad definitions of "non-trivial": it used to be received gospel on one programming board I frequent that Java was a terrible choice for a downloadable application. If you tried it your users would abandon you in the middle of their 120 terabyte download, your application would win awards for poor non-native design, and it would take approximately seven years to boot the JVM.

Then I made a few tens of thousands of dollars with Bingo Card Creator. (Which is written in Java. Further frustrating my efforts to win geek cred, the UI is in Swing.)

We don't hear much about the impossibility of making money with downloadable Java applications these days.