Bigscreen Beyond 2

Re:Bigscreen Beyond 2 by big_toast on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @02:40PM (#43474401)

Do you have an opinion on how close the Quest 3 + Immersed can get to replicating an 8k 54" tv at 36" away? I know the VR panels are ~30 PPD (and there's other issues) and I'm asking for something that's ~60 PPD. But does blowing up the screen 50% work? (Or changing the aspect ratio, keeping the same pixel count and still scaling.)

MacOS just doesn't really play well with non-retina text anymore. I think windows/linux probably has clearer text at lower PPDs.

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Re:Bigscreen Beyond 2 by emp on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @03:20PM (#43474811)

I can only describe my setup, have never tried an 8k monitor.

I am guessing I have about 40 PPD. I still have a sliver of space on each side where I see part of my support screens (vertical 1080P on each side). It has a 110 degree horizontal FOV.

My main screen is driven by the MacBook Pro's native resolution (3456x2160). Immersed can create 4k virtual screens, but I don't really see an improvement, the Quest's panels are the limiting factor.

Not crisp like retina, but the size makes up for it. In very rare cases I just lean right up to the screens (they are 3 feet from me). As the focal point is somewhere 4-5 feet away, you can have your face right against the screen to see tiny detail.

Also the fast refresh (I have mine set to 120Hz) matters. I tried my work's Vision Pro. Yes, more crisp graphics. But it gave me motion sickness, there is a slight motion blur, the pixels don't seem to refresh fast enough. The Quest is rock solid, never felt unwell using it.

I really don't even notice it is not retina.

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Re:Bigscreen Beyond 2 by big_toast on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @03:39PM (#43475020)

I see. So it sounds like you have the MBP set to the non-retina setting then passed to quest via immersed? (ie if you look at the laptop screen IRL everything is very small) Almost as though it was nearly a 50" 4k TV. So presumably has the macOS text issues but worth it otherwise.

And the mouse latency is fine wirelessly?

(Sorry, I don't love the retina word but I haven't found a substitute since high DPI resolves to so many other things.)

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Re:Bigscreen Beyond 2 by emp on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @05:38PM (#43476293)

Exactly, tiny text on the main screen (if I un-dim it, Immersed dims it automatically). I am not aware of text issues, I guess I never noticed any. There is a mouse emulation mode that is supposed to be more responsive, and native mouse - I use the native setup and don't notice any lag. Just have a good router and be close to it. Retina is the only word I know :) because it started way back on iOS/iPhone before it was that common. And probably because I use a Mac.

One other thing that is an unexpected bonus. It rains where I live. A lot. And when it is grey and dim, I can sit in a "sunny office". In fact, I even tweak my day to the virtual environments. Sunrise in a mountain lodge in the mornings, sunny office or ski chalet in the afternoons. Very positively mood altering.

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